The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’
The Daily21 Tammi 2024

The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’

Liz Flatt drove to Austin, Texas, mostly out of desperation. She had tried talking with the police. She had tried working with a former F.B.I. profiler who ran a nonprofit dedicated to solving unsolved murders. She had been interviewed by journalists and at least one podcaster. She had been featured on a Netflix documentary series about a man who falsely confessed to hundreds of killings.

Although she didn’t know it at the time, Flatt was at a crossroads in what she had taken to calling her journey, a path embarked on after a prayer-born decision five years earlier to try to find who killed her sister, Deborah Sue Williamson, or Debbie, in 1975. It was now 2021.

She had come to Austin for a conference, CrimeCon, which formed around the same time that Flatt began her quest, at a moment now seen as an inflection point in the long history of true crime, a genre as old as storytelling but one that adapts quickly to new technologies, from the printing press to social media. Flatt met a woman who would later put her in touch with two investigators who presented at the conference that year: George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz. They were podcasters, but Jared was also a journalist and Bucholtz an adjunct professor of forensics and criminal justice at the for-profit American Military University. Their presentation was on another cold case, the murder of Rebekah Gould in 2004, whose killer they claimed to have helped find using a technique that has quickly become a signature of the changing landscape of true crime: crowdsourcing.

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Thursday, Aug 10, 2017

Thursday, Aug 10, 2017

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Wednesday, Aug 9, 2017

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9 Elo 201718min

Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2017

Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2017

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Monday, Aug. 7, 2017

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Friday, Aug. 4, 2017

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Thursday, Aug. 3, 2017

Thursday, Aug. 3, 2017

President Trump is threatening to undermine the Affordable Care Act, President Barack Obama’s signature legislation. But what if the real threat to Obamacare was put there by Mr. Obama himself — and could bring the whole thing down? Guests: Carl Hulse, chief Washington correspondent; Ken Janda, the chief executive of an insurance provider in Houston. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

3 Elo 201719min

Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2017

Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2017

An expansion of power. A rewriting of the Constitution. Is democracy coming to an end in Venezuela? Plus: What does it mean for a retired four-star general to enter a chaotic White House? Guests: Nicholas Casey, our Andes bureau chief; Michael D. Shear, White House correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

2 Elo 201723min

Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2017

Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2017

He burned fast and bright. A play-by-play of the brief and tumultuous tenure of Anthony Scaramucci. And how President Putin’s bet on a Trump presidency backfired spectacularly. Guests: Glenn Thrush, a White House correspondent for The New York Times; David E. Sanger, chief Washington correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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