We're Fighting About Being Ugly

When you fall for someone else on national television, is there a right way to break the news to your partner? On today's show, we dive deep into the tangled breakup of Jojo Siwa and Aussie Kath Ebbs — and yep, it’s messier than you think.

Also, the final leaders’ debate served up a baffling convo about eggs, a full-blown culture war, and plenty of secondhand embarrassment.

And finally, we're at home with the deeply calm and zen-like Clooneys. George and Amal never argue apparently but is this really something to aspire to in a marriage? We’re unpacking everything they're missing out on when there's no argy-bargy and reveal what couples actually fight about.

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What to read:

• Hours after leaving Big Brother, JoJo Siwa and Kath Ebbs split. Now, Kath has spoken.
• After another 'aggressive' incident, Mickey Rourke has left Celebrity Big Brother.
• Virginia Giuffre, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most prominent accusers, has died, aged 41.
• Days before her heartbreaking post, Virginia Giuffre was facing court.
• 'The sausage dog who terrorised Kangaroo Island for 500 days is my obsession. At last, we have an update.'
• 'My life changed.' A look into George Clooney's family life with 7-year-old twins.
• 'I asked couples without kids what they actually fight about. One answer kept coming up.'

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