Can Walking Away From a Six-Figure Career To Heal Burnout Redefine Success? with Pamela Cass

Can Walking Away From a Six-Figure Career To Heal Burnout Redefine Success? with Pamela Cass

On this episode of Healthy Mind, Healthy Life, host Sayan sits down with executive coach, speaker, cancer survivor and author Pamela Cass to unpack what really happens when burnout stops being a buzzword and starts threatening your life. Pam shares how a routine dental visit, a terrifying blood pressure reading and her history with cancer forced her to choose between a secure executive role and being alive for her kids and grandkids.

They dig into why high achievers ignore the early signs of burnout, how tying your worth to your title and salary quietly erodes your health, and what it actually looks like to walk away from a six-figure position and rebuild work, money and identity from scratch. This is a direct, no fluff conversation about values, boundaries, time, and why your body will always tell the truth even when your LinkedIn looks flawless.

About the guest :

Pamela Cass is an executive coach, speaker, Realtor, podcast co host of Reignite Resilience, and co author of The Quiet Gift: A Journey of Self Worth and Resilience, a book about self worth, healing and finding your voice after feeling unseen.

A cancer survivor, single mom and dyslexia advocate, Pam brings lived experience to her work with leaders and high performers who are done sacrificing their health and relationships for a job title. Today she helps people recognize burnout before it becomes a medical crisis and supports them in building careers that finally align with their real values.

Key takeaways:

  • Burnout is not just feeling tired. For Pam it showed up as stage 2 hypertension, dread on Sunday nights and a body that was done pretending everything was fine.

  • Many high achievers anchor their worth to job titles, salary and status. That identity trap keeps them stuck in roles that quietly damage health, relationships and mental wellbeing.

  • A cancer diagnosis and later a life threatening blood pressure reading made Pam face a hard binary choice. Stay comfortable in a salaried executive role or risk not being there for her kids and future grandkids.

  • Rebuilding meant using her existing skills in coaching, teaching and speaking, leaning on her network, and owning the fear of starting over instead of letting it drive her choices.

  • Pam treats herself as the CEO of her life. Every Sunday she runs a meeting with herself to plan the week, putting non negotiables like morning quiet time, exercise and family first, then letting work fill in around those big rocks.

  • Common burnout signals include constant busyness, inability to rest, sleep issues, loss of interest in things you used to enjoy, withdrawing from friends and ignoring what your body keeps trying to say.

  • You can always find another job. You cannot replace your health, time with your kids, or years lost to misaligned living. That reality check is often the real turning point.

How listeners can connect with Pamela Cass:

    • Free coaching call booking

    • Speaking and workshop inquiries

    • Weekly blog and resources on resilience and burnout recovery

  • Book

    • The Quiet Gift: A Journey of Self Worth and Resilience on Amazon (Amazon)

  • Podcast

    • Reignite Resilience with co host Natalie Davis, focused on honest conversations about adversity, burnout and rebuilding from the inside out (Buzzsprout)

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Chasing Excellence Without Losing Yourself – with Fragoza

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When the Universe Holds Your Hair Back: Trauma, Psychedelics, and Radical Healing with Katie Baker

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In this powerful episode of Healthy Mind, Healthy Life, host Avik Chakraborty sits down with writer and trauma survivor Katie Baker to explore her profound journey from silent suffering to deep healing. Katie shares the story behind her memoir When the Universe Holds Your Hair Back, a raw and honest recount of surviving childhood abuse, addiction, and emotional numbness. The conversation dives into the emotional terrain of therapeutic psychedelics, generational patterns of emotional suppression, and the fine line between victimhood and truth-telling. Katie reminds us that healing is messy but possible—and that surrender isn’t weakness, but strength in disguise. About the Guest:Katie Baker is a trauma survivor, writer, and speaker whose memoir When the Universe Holds Your Hair Back reveals a deeply personal journey through abuse, addiction, and ultimately healing. She courageously shares how therapeutic psychedelics, emotional integration, and energy work helped her reclaim her worth and identity after decades of numbing and perfectionism. Katie is also the founder of Peace & Fire Healing, where she supports others on their path to emotional wholeness. Key Takeaways: Rock bottom moments often lead to radical breakthroughs. Healing from trauma may require unconventional tools like psychedelics, used safely and with intention. Emotional suppression, especially among mothers and women, is deeply ingrained—but it can be unlearned. Resilience can look like surrender. There’s a clear difference between giving up and letting go—healing requires the latter. Connect with Katie Baker:Website: https://peaceandfirehealing.comBook: When the Universe Holds Your Hair Back – Available wherever books are sold.   Want to be a guest on Healthy Mind, Healthy Life?DM on PodMatch: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avikTune to all our 15 podcasts: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-network/healthymindbyavikSubscribe to the newsletter: https://healthymindbyavik.substack.com/Join our community: https://nas.io/healthymind   Stay Tuned and Follow Us:YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@healthymind-healthylifeInstagram – https://www.instagram.com/healthyminds.podThreads – https://www.threads.net/@healthyminds.podFacebook – https://www.facebook.com/podcast.healthymindLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/reemachatterjee/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/avikchakrabortypodcaster #podmatch #healthymind #healthymindbyavik #wellness #MentalHealthAwareness #TherapeuticHealing #PsychedelicTherapy #TraumaHealing #RadicalHonesty #StorytellingAsMedicine #EmotionalHealth #PersonalGrowth #MindfulnessMatters #VoicesOfUnity #InspirationDaily

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Surviving Legal Abuse & Reclaiming Power: Lisa Johnson’s Story | Healthy Mind, Healthy Life

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10 Jul 25min

Grit Over Glamour: Tanner Haas on Building from Rock Bottom to Millions

Grit Over Glamour: Tanner Haas on Building from Rock Bottom to Millions

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8 Jul 24min

From Movement to Mindset: Misbah Haque on High Agency Thinking and Cognitive Fitness

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8 Jul 24min

Ditch the 9 to 5: Redefining Success with Luke Jean-Louis (aka The Deep Voice Coach)

Ditch the 9 to 5: Redefining Success with Luke Jean-Louis (aka The Deep Voice Coach)

In this episode of Healthy Mind, Healthy Life, host Avik sits down with Luke Jean-Louis—voice actor, podcaster, life coach, and entrepreneur—to talk about breaking free from the 9 to 5 mindset. Known as “The Deep Voice Coach,” Luke shares how he walked away from traditional work structures, the struggles he faced, and how he now empowers others to create financial and personal freedom using his 3P framework: People, Productivity, and Personality. Luke gets honest about failure, the trap of the paycheck, and why goals might just be overrated. This is an unfiltered conversation for anyone questioning their current path and craving a more intentional life. About the Guest:Luke Jean-Louis is a voice actor, podcast host, singer, life coach, and author of Life Lessons from the Deep Voice Man. With an MBA from Baruch and years of entrepreneurial experimentation, Luke has crafted a clear mission: helping others build authority, freedom, and purpose—without the burnout. His practical tools and bold mindset shifts guide others to create lives they don’t need a vacation from.Key Takeaways: The paycheck can be the most addictive drug keeping people stuck. The 3 P’s—People, Productivity, and Personality—are the core ingredients for building real freedom. Community matters: Luke’s writing journey started with daily essays on Type Share, leading to his first book. Goals are overrated; habits and streaks are what lead to long-term results. Security doesn’t come from jobs—it comes from skills, mindset, and owning your time. Connect with Luke Jean-Louis: Website: www.deepvoicecoach.com Email: luke@deepvoicecoach.com Free course: The Everyday Man’s Guide to Unlimited Success   Want to be a guest on Healthy Mind, Healthy Life? DM on PodMatch:DM Me Here:https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/avikTune to all our 15 podcasts:https://www.podbean.com/podcast-network/healthymindbyavikSubscribe To Newsletter:https://healthymindbyavik.substack.com/Join Community:https://nas.io/healthymind   Stay Tuned And Follow Us:YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@healthymind-healthylifeInstagram – https://www.instagram.com/healthyminds.podThreads – https://www.threads.net/@healthyminds.podFacebook – https://www.facebook.com/podcast.healthymindLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/reemachatterjee/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/avikchakrabortypodcaster #podmatch #healthymind #healthymindbyavik #wellness

8 Jul 41min

Keep Moving Forward: From Auctions to Authorship with Kira Hartley Klinger

Keep Moving Forward: From Auctions to Authorship with Kira Hartley Klinger

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