#86 — From Cells to Cities

Sam Harris speaks with Geoffrey West about how biological and social systems scale, the significance of fractals, the prospects of radically extending human life, the concept of "emergence" in complex systems, the importance of cities, the necessity for continuous innovation, and other topics.

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