20VC: Founding Legendary Entertainment and Creating Batman, The Hangover and 300, The Importance of Luck vs Skill in Success, How Relationships to Money Change & Why Velocity is the Most Important Factor in Company Building Success with Thomas Tull

20VC: Founding Legendary Entertainment and Creating Batman, The Hangover and 300, The Importance of Luck vs Skill in Success, How Relationships to Money Change & Why Velocity is the Most Important Factor in Company Building Success with Thomas Tull

Thomas Tull is a leading entrepreneur and investor as the Founder, Chairman and CEO of Tulco, LLC. he has made notable investments in the likes of FIGS, Colossal, IL MAKIAGE, Pinterest, Zoox and Oculus Rift. Previously, Tull was the founder, CEO and Chairman of Legendary Entertainment, the film company that produced blockbusters including The Dark Knight trilogy, 300 and The Hangover franchise. Outside of his investment work, Thomas is a trustee of Carnegie Mellon University, Yellowstone Forever, the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, and the Smithsonian Institution. If that was not enough, Tull is also part of the ownership group of the Pittsburgh Steelers, the six-time Super Bowl champions.

In Today's Episode with Thomas Tull You Will Learn:

1.) From Laundromats to Legendary Entertainment:

  • How did Thomas first make his way into the world of business starting with laundromats?
  • How did growing up without money impact Thomas' early mindset?
  • What advice does Thomas give to young people today on starting their own business?

2.) Thomas Tull: The Investor:

  • How does Thomas approach risk today? Where is the boundary of acceptable vs unacceptable risk?
  • How does Thomas assess his own relationship to money? How has it changed over time?
  • How does Thomas protect himself from people and occasions where one is being used for their money or status?
  • To what extent does Thomas believe success is luck vs skill?

3.) Legendary Entertainment:

  • How did Thomas make his way into the movie business with the founding of Legendary Entertainment?
  • How did Thomas first meet Chris Nolan? What did the early days of making Batman Begins look like?
  • What were some of the most memorable times from making 300 with Gerard Butler?
  • What were some of the most challenging elements of scaling Legendary? With the benefit of hindsight, is there anything that Thomas would do differently?

4.) The Macro:

  • Why does Thomas believe public markets are the least rational they have ever been?
  • From geo politics to climate change, what is Thomas most worried about today in the world?
  • What does Thomas believe we should focus on as positives moving forward? What should we be excited about?

Item's Mentioned In Today's Episode with Thomas Tull

Thomas' Favourite Book: Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Thomas' Most Recent Investment: Colossal

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20VC: Why Traditional VC is Broken: How VCs Learned Nothing from 2021 | Why LPs are More Important than Founders & Advice to Emerging Managers | Bull Case for Bytedance & Why TikTok's Ban Doesn't Matter with Mitchell Green, Lead Edge Capital

Mitchell Green is the Founder and Managing Partner of Lead Edge Capital. Mitchell has led or co-led investments in companies including Alibaba, Asana, Benchling, ByteDance, Duo Security, Grafana, Mindbody, and Xamarin, among several others. In Today's Episode We Discuss: 04:31 How Bessemer Taught Me The One Golden Rule of Investing 06:48 Why AI Infrastrcture is the Worst Investment to Make 08:51 Why it is Comical to think there will be $BN one person companies? 09:26 WTF Happens To The Cohort of SaaS Companies With Slow Growth, Not Yet Profitable and $50M-$200M in Revenue 16:12 What is the Biggest Problem with the IPO Market 23:24 When is the Right Time to Sell in VC and How a Generation F******* it Up 27:37 Biggest Advice to Smaller Emerging Managers 40:13 The One Question That Tells You if a Business is Good 43:01 Why LPs are More Important than Founders 45:03 One Question Every LP Should Ask Their VCs 46:03 Why TikTok Does Not Matter to ByteDance and It Is a Screaming Buy 51:30 Why We Drastically Underestimate the Power of Chinese AI? 55:18 Why Social Media is the Most Dangerous Thing in Society 01:00:07 Quick Fire Questions

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20VC: The Insane Story of DeliveryHero: Losing $200M on a Gorillas Investment | Winning the Emerging Markets Delivery War with 35 Acquisitions | Competing with Uber and Doordash in a Capital Arms Race with Niklas Östberg

Niklas Östberg is the Founder and CEO of Delivery Hero, a global juggernaut now present in over 70 countries across four continents. In Q4 2024, the company announced GMV of $49BN with $12.8BN in revenue and $750M in EBITDA. They have made an astonishing 35+ acquisitions including $2BN for Glovo. Before launching Delivery Hero, Niklas co-founded Pizza.nu, leading its expansion across Sweden, Poland, Finland, and Austria. In Today's Episode We Discuss: 04:09 How Skiing Prepared Me For Life As An Entrepreneur 10:12 Losing $200M on Gorillas Investment 17:58 Quick Commerce: Does the Business Model Work? 25:09 How to Master M&A: Lessons from 35 Acquisitions 31:45 Evaluating Acquisitions: The Glovo Example 32:39 Cohort Analysis: Lessons from $49BN in GMV 34:35 Growth Strategies: What Worked? What Did Not Work? 38:27 Competing Against Uber and Doordash 41:40 Is Cash a Weapon in the War for Food Delivery 44:29 Why Are Emerging Markets a Good Investment? 48:21 Why Are European Markets Broken? Are Regulators Killing Europe? 51:57 Quickfire Round: Insights and Reflections

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20VC: AI Chip Wars: How Cerebras Plans to Topple NVIDIA's Dominance | Why We Have Not Reached Scaling Laws in AI | What Happens to the Cost of Inference | How We Underestimate China and Shouldn't Sell To Them with Andrew Feldman

Andrew Feldman is the Co-Founder and CEO @ Cerebras, the fastest AI inference + training platform in the world. In Sept 2024 the company filed to go public off the back of a rumoured $1BN deal with G42 in the UAE. Andrew is the leading expert for all things inference. In Today's Episode We Discuss: 04:23 Where Was AI Landscape in 2015 When Cerebras Founded 05:57 NVIDIA's Biggest Strength Has Become Their Biggest Weakness 07:09 What Happens to the Cost of Inference? 08:55 Why Are AI Algorithms So Inefficient? 20:30 Why is it Total BS That We Have Hit Scaling Laws? 23:07 What Will Be the Ratio of Synthetic to Human Data Used in 5 Years? 31:37 What Specifically Was So Impressive About Deepseek? 31:51 Why is Distillation Not Wrong and OpenAI Need to Look in the Mirror? 32:34 Where Will Value Accrue in a World of AI? 34:08 How Will NVIDIA's Market Position Change Over the Next Five Years? 39:59 Why is the CUDA Lockin for NVIDIA BS? What is Their Weakness? 40:46 Why is Trump Better for Business than Biden? 49:41 Do We Underestimate China in a World of AI? 52:33 What is the Most Underappreciated Segment of AI? 54:00 Quickfire Round

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20VC: Selling Drift for $1.2BN is the Biggest Failure: What No One Tells You About Selling Your Company | Why Incumbents Are Slower & Worse Than Ever | Why the Most Valuable Companies in a World of AI Will Not Have More Than 100 People with Elias Torres

20VC: Selling Drift for $1.2BN is the Biggest Failure: What No One Tells You About Selling Your Company | Why Incumbents Are Slower & Worse Than Ever | Why the Most Valuable Companies in a World of AI Will Not Have More Than 100 People with Elias Torres

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20VC: HubSpot CEO on Where Value Accrues in SaaS AI | How HubSpot Competes Against Salesforce | Why B2B Is Not a Winner Take All Market | How to Go From SMB to Enterprise an Win | How SEO Dying Changes HubSpot's Business with Yamini Rangan

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Yamini Rangan is the CEO at HubSpot. The $32BN juggernaut that has revenues of $2.6BN, over 247,000 customers and 8,200 employees. Prior to Hubspot, Yamini served as Chief Customer Officer at Dropbox, and before Dropbox, she was VP of Sales Strategy and Operations at Workday. In Today's Episode We Discuss: 04:16 Taking Over the CEO Role from the Founders 07:58 Wartime vs Peacetime CEOship 11:18 How to Scale Into Enterprise: What Everyone Gets Wrong 22:20 Why is B2B Not Winner Take All 29:33 How Does HubSpot Compete Against Salesforce 33:26 Where Does Value Accrue in a World of AI 37:40 How Does Yamini Use AI Everyday 41:17 What Does HubSpot Do When It's Core SEO Channel Dies 44:10 Quickfire Round: Satya Nadella, Parenting Advice, Biggest Concern 51:35 Closing Thoughts and Reflections

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20Product: How to Design and Build Products in a World of Agents | Why AI Will Kill Many SaaS Products | What Products Will Thrive and Die in a World of 100M Developers with Matt Biilmann, Co-Founder and CEO @ Netlify

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