264: Unlawful Orders

Jill Wine-Banks hosts this week’s episode, discussing the tragic shooting of two National Guardsmen in Washington, D.C., the legal and personal impacts of military service, and the investigation into the Afghan refugee accused in the attack, along with the political reactions that may shape what comes next. The Sisters also dig into community safety, recent indictments involving Comey and James, and the controversies around improperly appointed U.S. attorneys, while unpacking a video from former military members in Congress urging service members to defy orders they deem illegal. They explore the uproar surrounding the video, potential responses from the FBI and Defense Department, the limits of congressional speech protections, and the delicate balance between free expression, political pressure, and understanding what truly counts as an illegal order under military law.


Get the brand new ReSIStance Hoodie, T-Shirt & Mini Tote at politicon.com/merch

Additional #SistersInLaw Shows & Content Are Here!
Check out Jill’s Politicon YouTube Show: Just The Facts
Check out Kim’s Newsletter: The Gavel

Books & Upcoming Tour Events From The #Sisters
Joyce’s new book, Giving Up Is Unforgivable, is now available. For a limited time, you have the exclusive opportunity to order a signed copy here! Also, don’t miss her upcoming book tour, tickets available on her Substack.

Pre-order Barb’s new book, The Fix. You can also get Barb’s first book, Attack From Within, here, now in paperback. Make sure you don’t miss her ongoing tour. You can buy tickets at barbaramcquade.com for all upcoming shows.

Add the #Sisters & your other favorite Politicon podcast hosts on Bluesky

Get your #SistersInLaw MERCH at politicon.com/merch

WEBSITE & TRANSCRIPT

Email: SISTERSINLAW@POLITICON.COM or Thread to @sistersInLaw.podcast

Get text updates from #SistersInLaw and Politicon.

From the #Sisters:

From Joyce’s Substack - Sorry, George Washington Would Not Have Hanged Them

Support This Week’s Sponsors

Calm:
Go to calm.com/SISTERS for 40% off unlimited access to Calm’s entire
Library

Factor Meals:
Eat smart at FactorMeals.com/sil50off and use code sil50off to get 50% off your first box, plus Free Breakfast for 1 Year.

Quince:
Go to Quince.com/sisters for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada

Aura Frames:
Aura Frames is the perfect gift! Shop now with holiday savings and get an exclusive $45-off their Carver Mat frame at auraframes.com/SISTERS. Promo Code: SISTERS

Ridge Wallet:
Go to www.Ridge.com/SISTERS for up to 47% Off your order during their biggest sale of the year.



Get More From The #SistersInLaw

Joyce Vance: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Alabama Law | Civil Discourse Substack | MSNBC | Author of “Giving Up Is Unforgiveable”

Jill Wine-Banks: Bluesky | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight For Truth & Justice Against A Criminal President | Just The Facts YouTube

Kimberly Atkins Stohr: Bluesky | Twitter | Boston Globe | WBUR | The Gavel Newsletter | Justice By Design Podcast

Barb McQuade: Bluesky | Twitter | University of Michigan Law | Just Security | MSNBC | Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America