201: Counterpoint Panel: Why "Harmony" Classes Fail, Fux Myths, Bach Traps & Better Methods
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201: Counterpoint Panel: Why "Harmony" Classes Fail, Fux Myths, Bach Traps & Better Methods

Counterpoint is the "huge topic" that crowns the Neapolitan method and the Paris Conservatoire tradition—and yet it's often taught today in ways that leave students confused, discouraged, and musically disconnected.

In this Counterpoint Panel, I'm joined by:

• Robert O. Gjerdingen (Author of "Music in the Galant Style", "Child Composers")

• Peter van Tour (Author of "Counterpoint and Partimento")

• Job IJzerman (Author of "Harmony, Counterpoint, Partimento")

We talk about how counterpoint was introduced to each of them, why modern harmony courses often set students up for failure, and why "rules on paper" don't work without singing, playing, and real stylistic vocabulary.

We also tackle:

• Why counterpoint matters (and what it actually trains)

• The truth about Fux and why the "species-only" pipeline so often collapses

• Why asking students to "write like Bach" can be a disaster—and what to use instead

• Whether everyone needs to write a fugue

• What "written counterpoint" training should look like when students already have practical skills

• Counterpoint's future: horizontality, melody-making, and creative freedom

• If you teach, study, or care about the old training paths (solfeggio → partimento → counterpoint), this episode completes the trilogy. Subscribe for more interviews & deep dives into partimento, improvisation, historical pedagogy, and musicianship.

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182: Giovanna Barbati (Partimento and Improvisation on the Cello)

182: Giovanna Barbati (Partimento and Improvisation on the Cello)

Today I speak to cellist and viola da gamba player Giovanna Barbati, whose repertoire extends from early to contemporary music and who has a special interest in improvisation. She appears frequently a...

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144: Sietze de Vries (Classical Improviser, Organist)

144: Sietze de Vries (Classical Improviser, Organist)

Professor Sietze de Vries, famed for his mastery in classical improvisation, joins the show to talk about his education, training, approach to music, music education, and demonstrates classical improv...

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158: Nicholas Baragwanath (Hexachordal Italian Solfeggio)

158: Nicholas Baragwanath (Hexachordal Italian Solfeggio)

Professor Nicholas Baragwanath, author of the groundbreaking "Solfeggio Tradition" (published by Oxford University Press), returns to the show to talk about Hexachordal Italian Solfeggio. This was the...

17 Touko 20241h 9min

157: Ewald Demeyere (Fedele Fenaroli's Partimenti and Pedagogy)

157: Ewald Demeyere (Fedele Fenaroli's Partimenti and Pedagogy)

Professor Ewald Demeyere returns on the show to discuss his critical edition of Fenaroli's partimenti collection and discusses Fenaroli's approach to pedagogy and partimento realization.

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154: Partimento Panel (Gjerdingen, Sanguinetti, van Tour, Cafiero)

154: Partimento Panel (Gjerdingen, Sanguinetti, van Tour, Cafiero)

In this episode, I am joined by eminent professors Robert O. Gjerdingen, Giorgio Sanguinetti, Peter van Tour, and Rosa Cafiero, in a special panel session about the subject of partimento. We discuss t...

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174: Niels Berentsen (1300-1500 Polyphony | Improvising Vocal Counterpoint)

174: Niels Berentsen (1300-1500 Polyphony | Improvising Vocal Counterpoint)

I talk to Professor Niels Berentsen about the beginnings of improvised counterpoint, the reconstruction of incomplete music by Johannes Ciconia, computational analysis of counterpoint, teaching 15th/1...

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167: Solfeggio Panel (Baragwanath, Gjerdingen, IJzerman, van Tour)

167: Solfeggio Panel (Baragwanath, Gjerdingen, IJzerman, van Tour)

Today we have a special episode dedicated to Solfeggio, featuring Professors Nicholas Baragwanath, Job IJzerman, Robert O. Gjerdingen, and Peter van Tour. The famed students of the 18th-century Neapol...

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