Former Canadian Opposition Leader Michael Ignatieff 

A spate of new trade agreements shows how America’s global partners are hedging their bets against Trump's volatile tariff policy. Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney saw all this coming. Speaking in Davos, he called for 'middle powers' to prepare for the end of the rules-based international order, warning, "if we're not at the table, we're on the menu." Historian Michael Ignatieff, who preceded Carney as head of Canada's Liberal Party, joins the show to discuss. Also on today's show: Director Tamara Kotevska; NYT columnist Thomas Friedman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices