196. Karl-Erik Edris - hands on, personal approaches to change and decentering grand narratives

Karl-Erik Edris is an author (books in Swedish), thinker and educator on the topic of leadership. We took a deep dive into the why grand narratives are probably not what we need right now, why life is probably about revealing your own stupidity to yourself and how the state of the world right now is probably not something we did wrong, rather just something we need to pay attention to so we can get it right. This is a wonderful conversation with one of the deepest thinkers and optimists I've encountered. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul