Trying to Make Sense of War After Leaving a Pacifist Cult

As a Jehovah's Witness Stephen was raised to be a pacifist. Upon leaving the group ex members find themselves trying to make sense of how to think about war and whether it can be justified. Celine and Stephen explore the concept of the "just war", how we remember people who have died in wars and how for a moment the world appeared to get close to a rules based system for mutual benefit. Also the show introduces a new feature, showcasing the music and performances of ex JWs or ex members of other high control groups. Today it's a band called TICNOTOC from Warrington, Cheshire in the UK with their track; Who rattled your cage?

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BBC Podcast - In Our Time

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/just-war/id463701671?i=1000097068534