Episode #251: 'Angel' 4x16 and 4x17 - The Gina Torres Thing

Join ReWatchable as we discuss Angel 4x16, "Players" and 4x17 "Inside Out."

Superfans: Caitlin and Maj
Newbies: Kristen and Brittany

Fun Facts:
Kristen is amped for Black Panther week (and so are we!). Brittany has a cold, but it's okay because she hasn't been on a Buffy discussion episode in a month! Maj has not talked about Buffy either. Caitlin job update: she has finally tutored students and now has that money!

Angel season 4, episode 16, “Players”
-Synopsis
-The costume designer apologizes for that dress on Cordelia
-Naturally, everyone is grossed out by Cordelia's pregnancy, because same
-Evacuate the rollercoaster
-SIDE RANT: Goodbye, Angelus
-Angel doesn't feel guilty -- or does he?
-Angel apologizes for Lilah's death because it bothers Wes. Friendship reactivates
-Wes processes Lilah's death through Fred's questioning of the relationship
-MORE FRED AND FEMALE CHARACTERS PLEASE
-"Get over yourself"
-Points for Gunn -- he has a heartbeat
-Not that we don't love Gunn, but why spend so much time with him at this point in the season?
-Why wouldn't Gwen want the device for herself? Normalcy is desired by all
-Whatever normal means for each person
-Gunn, though he loves action, is always doing good
-But Gunn and Gwen might have been a step too far
-Let's talk about Pushing Daisies
-Did we see Lorne's involvement in the plan to catch Cordy?
-Angel is getting. stuff. done.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Angel season 4, episode 17, "Inside Out"
-Synopsis
-Stop underestimating ANGEL
-Do we trust his judgement here that Cordelia is actually gone?
-Connor is not smart. But who can blame him?
-Let's analyze Connor a little deeper, shall we?
-Cordelia's amnesia... she never came back!
-A name is coming!
-"Everything is awful, everything is cruel when you're part of the team!"
-Angel's hoodie -- MVP
-Skip's behind it all. Nooooo
-All is quiet on the superfan front
-Who can we trust? Everyone? No one?
-Angelus might be the MOST reliable narrator we have
-Darla is back!
-Is Cordelia dead?
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

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Kristen's Kontemplations/Brittany's Brainstorms:
-Angel season 4, episode 18, "Shiny Happy People"
-Buffy season 7, episode 18, "Dirty Girls"

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