AI pioneer Mustafa Suleyman

In 2014, Google paid hundreds of millions of dollars to acquire AI lab DeepMind, which was co-founded by Mustafa Suleyman. He says it's an incredible time to be alive during this transition to AI, but the the world still doesn't quite grasp how big a deal its arrival really is. He joined the show to discuss all of AI's ups and downs, which he's written about in his book “The Coming Wave.” Also on today's show: Jeffrey Wright, Actor, "American Fiction"; Max Boot, National Security correspondent, The Washington Post Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices