233: The dubious benefits of immersion

233: The dubious benefits of immersion

In this solo episode, Olly discusses whether immersion is all it's cracked up to be.

Episode Summary:
  • Immersion is always held up as the "holy grail" of language learning
  • Definition: Spending all day every day in a native-level environment
  • It's not all it's cracked up to be
  • Survival bias is at play:
    • Katzumoto: 10,000 hours of Japanese
    • Gabriel Wyner: 8 weeks in Middlebury
    • Your friend who went to China and was fluent in 3 months
  • Immersion only works if you are able to go full-on enough, for long enough, and stay positive enough to make it to be successful... not practical for most people
  • As a study strategy, it leaves a lot to be desired:
    • You don't understand anything
    • There's no structure
    • Not enjoyable
  • My experiences with real immersion were not good
    • Paris, Japan, Egypt
  • Immersion is much more effective when you can already hold you own
  • Theory of "Comprehensible input"
  • What's the opportunity cost?
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