'The Interview': James Lankford Tried to Solve Immigration for the GOP

Senator James Lankford discusses how political calculations killed his border bill, the evangelical Christian vote and preparing for life after Trump. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.