Are Sabbaticals Actually A Bad Thing?, Worship Isn't A Genre, & Being Active feat. Tim Nicholson

In this episode, Joel sits down with acclaimed pianist, Tim Nicholson, who is also the husband of Sandra McCracken. during this episode, Joel and Tim talk about how Sabbaticals aren't a good thing for a Pastor and may actually signal some unhealthy rhythms, how worship music isn't really a genre, and trying to stay healthy! The outro is "So Real" by Natural State