MSNBC Public Editor: It will take more than one salvo for Kamala Harris to take down Joe Biden

On this week’s episode, CJR Editor and Publisher Kyle Pope speaks with Maria Bustillo, CJR’s public editor for MSNBC, on the first round of Democratic debates. They discuss Kamala Harris’s small-screen evolution into a challenger for Joe Biden, why one weak debate won’t finish him, and how Bustillo plans to cover MSNBC in the run-up to 2020.