An exclusive interview with U.S. Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin

After Russia's Vladimir Putin annexed parts of Ukraine and threatened the use of nuclear weapons, Fareed sits down with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to discuss how the U.S. sees the threat and how it is responding. Looking east, Secretary Austin discusses China's threat to Taiwan and whether the U.S. military would come to the self-governing island’s defense. Then, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, former Russian oil tycoon who knew Putin before the two fell out, helps us understand Putin's mindset, his nuclear threat, and what Russia would look like post-Putin. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices