A Conversation with Alexander Silvert on "The Mailbox Conspiracy" That Brought Down a Police Chief and A Prosecutor

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Illinois, Texas, California, and Ohio.First Alert 4’s report on the discovery of Kylie Toberman’s body: https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/11/15/police-body-found-vandalia-illinois-related-missing-persons-case/KSDK’s report on the circumstances of Kylie Toberman’s life and death and her connection to accused killer Arnold B. Rivera: https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/mother-slain-vandalia-jr-high-student-she-didnt-deserve-this/63-22e7c21c-a015-49e6-a0c4-fab91e846714A press release from the Illinois State Police on Kylie Toberman’s murder and the arrest of Arnold B. Rivera: https://illinois-state-police.prezly.com/s/17f6c48f-c8ed-462b-b01c-7fb1e9e79b9d?previewNBC Chicago’s report on Kylie Toberman’s murder and the arrest of Arnold B. Rivera: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/details-emerge-in-14-year-old-illinois-girls-murder-as-police-investigate-social-media-post/3852390/NBC News’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-charged-murder-last-chance-u-coach-allegedly-confessed-according-c-rcna244488The San Francisco Chronicle’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/john-beam-shooting-suspect-witchcraft-21186151.phpThe San Francisco Standard’s coverage of the murder of former Laney College football coach John Beam and the arrest of Cedric Irving Jr.: https://sfstandard.com/2025/11/14/john-beam-shooting-laney-college-security/The Arlington Police Department’s press release on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.arlingtontx.gov/News-Articles/2025/Arlington-PD-Makes-Arrest-in-1991-Cold-Case-in-Partnership-with-UTANBC News’s article on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-students-help-police-make-arrest-1991-cold-case-murder-investi-rcna244562The Independent’s article on the arrest of Janie Perkins for the cold case murder of Cynthia Gonzalez and the work of University of Texas at Arlington criminology students: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/cynthia-gonzalez-janie-perkins-cold-case-murder-b2867135.htmlCleveland.com’s article on efforts by Ohio criminal law professors to reduce the sentence of Leander Bissell in the murder of firefighter Johnny Tetrick: https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2025/11/law-profs-urge-ohio-supreme-court-to-uphold-conviction-ruling-in-cleveland-firefighters-death.htmlThe Supreme Court of Ohio’s recent order based on efforts by Ohio criminal law professors to reduce the sentence of Leander Bissell in the murder of firefighter Johnny Tetrick: https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf/8/2024/2024-Ohio-5317.pdfFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

21 Marras 51min

The Future of Crime Solving is our new series where we talk to law enforcement officials who are working to introduce eSleuth AI to police departments around the country. As part of this inaugural episode in the series, we interviewed former ATF official Eric Harden about his experience in law enforcement and his views on gang violence. If you're a law enforcement official curious about eSleuth AI, email Scot at sthomasson@esleuth.ai or check out their website at: https://www.esleuth.ai/Order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

20 Marras 1h 17min

On the anniversary of Indiana's infamous Burger Chef murders, we will address questions from listeners and individuals interested in the case. Jayne Friedt, Danny Davis, Mark Flemmonds, and Ruth Shelton disappeared during their shift at the Burger Chef in Speedway, Indiana sometime between Friday November 17 and Saturday November 18 in 1978.Check out our Burger Chef murders recap here: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/1cf50ad4-ae9f-4825-8d63-3074cf187ec5Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsBuy our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

18 Marras 1h 6min

We discuss the recent developments in the shooting of Maria Velasquez, the cleaning woman who Curt Andersen shot and killed through a closed and locked door.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

17 Marras 41min

Sam McGuire studies conspiracy theories. He is a master's graduate from OCAD University in Toronto, Ontario. We were fortunate enough to get to talk to him about conspiracy theories, their prevalence in true crime, and how we can try to help people break the cycle of conspiratorial thinking.In new segment, True Crime Wave, we’ll be talking about issues endemic to true crime. At its best, true crime offers the audience a way to learn about stories of crime, social issues, legal realities, and the real human beings at the heart of cases. It can be educational and compassionate and cathartic and thoughtful and incisive, and it can help raise awareness of cases. Good true crime can show case all kinds of different perspectives. It can center journalism, advocacy, legal analysis, investigative approaches, the experiences of survivors or victims’ families, and more. That is all very good. But too often, we see true crime devolve. We have seen online mobs, harassment, conspiracy theories, ethics-washing, and more. True crime won’t get better on its own. We think talking about these things will help. Check out Sam's Master's thesis here: https://openresearch.ocadu.ca/id/eprint/4061/Check out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsBuy our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

16 Marras 1h 10min

The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from California, New York, Indiana, and Ohio.NBC New York's coverage of the recently solved murder of Ann Lustig and the identification of Steven Briecke as the killer: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/long-island/smudge-crime-scene-helped-long-island-police-solve-1997-cold-case-murder/6416940/CBS's coverage of the recently solved murder of Ann Lustig and the identification of Steven Briecke as the killer:https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/ann-lustig-rape-murder-cold-case-solved/Law & Crime's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://x.com/LawCrimeNetwork/status/1988267978261921882?s=20KTLA's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/private-investigator-claims-to-know-who-was-driving-d4vds-abandoned-tesla/Los Angeles Magazine's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://lamag.com/news/lapd-stands-by-no-further-crimes-confirmed-in-death-of-celeste-rivas-hernandez/Men's Journal's coverage of the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the controversy around David Anthony Burke, or D4Vd: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/police-issue-telling-statement-d4vd-224248558.htmlThe Indianapolis Star's coverage of the shooting death of Maria Florinda Ríos Pérez: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025/11/05/house-cleaner-maria-florinda-rios-perez-guatemalan-shot-killed-whitestown-indiana/87110514007/WTHR's coverage of the shooting death of Maria Florinda Ríos Pérez: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/indiana-stand-your-ground-law-whitestown-shooting/531-f9a66029-28ab-4428-af16-6493ec8a7ae610 TV's coverage of the alleged murder of Mary Hill by her husband James Hill: https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/court-documents-detail-events-leading-to-attempted-murder-suicide-upper-arlington-home/530-37a02902-4c27-4059-b58f-d51f4ca54afdFind discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

14 Marras 1h

Several court exhibits associated with Richard Allen's defense's Odinism theory have become public. They mostly feature well-trod ground around the debunked theory that Norse pagans sacrificed Liberty German and Abigail Williams on February 13, 2017. But they do feature a few interesting insights, including an interview between Kathy Allen and police.Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

12 Marras 2h 1min

In 2022, Bryan Kohberger murdered University of Idao students Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Ethan Chapin, and Xana Kernodle at a home in Moscow, Idaho. Kohberger pled guilty and received four life sentences. He was also ordered to pay restitution to the victims' families for funeral expenses. On November 5, 2025, Kohberger's defense team, Latah County prosecutor Bill Thompson, and Judge Steven Hippler had a hearing about further expenses. Find discounts for Murder Sheet listeners here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/discountsCheck out our upcoming book events and get links to buy tickets here: https://murdersheetpodcast.com/eventsOrder our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLCSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

11 Marras 33min