The Thrilla in Vanilla

Abby Livingston joins Peter to preview tonight’s undercard between Tim Walz and J.D. Vance, two rival Midwest archetypes selling two very different visions of America. Historically, the V.P. debate doesn’t move the needle. Peter and Abby pressure-test that theory and ponder why tonight’s showdown could potentially be the most interesting V.P. matchup in years. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices