Murder Genes & Media Gymnastics (with Mike Bender)

This week, Heilemann and Murphy were joined by the esteemed and remarkably flexible Mike Bender, NYT political correspondent and author of Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost. The Hacks break down murder genes, Harris’s media blitz, take bets on whether there will be another presidential debate, moments of crazy strength, being in the zone, wiggly flip-flopping, and so much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices