14 Did Aristotle Hold Science Back 2000 Years? w/ Peter Adamson

14 Did Aristotle Hold Science Back 2000 Years? w/ Peter Adamson

Did you know that Aristotle is to blame for the sad state of science during the Dark Ages in Western Europe? We could have colonized Mars by now if it weren't for Aristotle's disastrously wrong scientific ideas holding back the progress of science for thousands of years. At least, that's the impression you might get from a host of popular books, blog-posts, and click-bait articles online. For example, here is how one such book, called 50 Things You're Not Supposed to Know, argues that Aristotle held science back for millennia:

"The Problem is that from the time he was alive (the 4th century BC) until the Enlightenment, when Aristotle said something, that was the end of the argument.... Like most Greeks, Aristotle championed the view that the Sun and planets revolved around the Earth. Copernicus (in the early 1500's) and Galileo (100 years later) had to risk their reputations and their LIVES to put the kibosh on that nonsense."

Once can find plenty of similar arguments online. While it's safe to say that none of the people who make these kinds of claims have a degree in the history of philosophy, some of them are really smart in other fields. Take Steven Weinberg, the nobel-prize winning physicist and celebrated author. The guy is undeniably a genius. And he has a similarly unenthusiastic view of the role Aristotle played in the development of science. Of course, he acknowledges the tremendous influence that Aristotle had throughout history. And he goes over a lot things that Aristotle got right. He just thinks that neither Aristotle nor Plato knew what science is, and that in later periods an over-reliance on Aristotle plagued both Islamic Science and later Medieval European Science.

Meanwhile, over at the ivory tower the people who study philosophy and its history professionally have a very different view on Aristotle. Earlier this year, a blog that is popular among professional philosophers, called Leiter Reports, conducted a poll to determine who the most important western philosopher of all time was. Guess who won? Aristotle.

So what's going on here? Can it be that Aristotle held science back for two thousand years and yet he's also the greatest western philosopher of all time? Or is one of these positions incorrect?

With us today to try to answer that question is Peter Adamson. You may know him as the host of the History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps podcast, which aims to tell the entire history of philosophy not just of the west, but also of the Arabic world, India and China. It may be the most ambitious podcast ever created. Adamson is professor of philosophy at the Ludwig Maximilian University in Munich, Germany. He joins us to discuss Aristotle's contributions to philosophy, and the role that his works have played in shaping the course of human knowledge.

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64 Plato's Republic: Full Summary and Explanation w/ Gina White

64 Plato's Republic: Full Summary and Explanation w/ Gina White

Plato's Republic isn't just a cornerstone of Western thought—it's a mirror reflecting the challenges of our own time. In this episode of Ancient Greece Declassified, host Lantern Jack teams up with scholar Gina White to deliver a one-stop, accessible guide to this timeless work—exploring its big ideas, enduring impact, and eerie relevance to today's world. ------------------ Support the show on Patreon: https://patreon.com/greecepodcast ------------------ Timestamps [00:50] Introduction to the Republic [05:35] A bird's-eye view of the entire work [15:20] Book 1: What is justice? [20:56] Book 2: The immoralist challenge [25:33] Book 3: Building the ideal city [34:00] Book 4: Justice defined [43:10] Book 5: Philosopher kings [49:30] Book 6: The Form of the Good [56:33] Book 7: The Cave [1:02:44] Book 8: Bad constitutions, bad souls [1:05:23] Book 9: The secret misery of tyrants [1:07:17] Book 10: The Myth of Er

1 Syys 1h 19min

63 The Spartan Strategy for Acquiring and Wielding Power w/ Eric Robinson

63 The Spartan Strategy for Acquiring and Wielding Power w/ Eric Robinson

How did Sparta—a mere city-state with an agrarian economy and barely any economic growth to speak of—rise to become the supreme power in ancient Greece? We investigate in conversation with renowned historian Eric W. Robinson, author of the forthcoming book "Spartan Legend." ------------------ Support the show on Patreon: https://patreon.com/greecepodcast ------------------ Timestamps [03:28] Origins of Spartan power [12:26] Democratic aspects of the Spartan constitution [17:25] Athenian admiration of Sparta [23:00] How good were Spartan armies? [27:05] Robinson's theory of a Spartan "Mystique" [44:04] Why Sparta won the Peloponnesian War against Athens [48:46] Why Spartan power declined

1 Elo 1h

62 Marcus Aurelius and the Kingdom of Gold w/ Judith Stove

62 Marcus Aurelius and the Kingdom of Gold w/ Judith Stove

Marcus Aurelius became emperor of Rome in 161 AD and went on to win several wars against the northern barbarians. But it wasn't his military exploits that earned him everlasting fame. Rather, it was his philosophical mind and the writings he left behind. In this episode, we are joined by author and scholar Judith Stove to explore the character, writings, and legacy of Rome's "philosopher king." Stove's latest book is called Marcus Aurelius and His Legacy: Seeking Rome's Kingdom of Gold. ------------------ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/greecepodcast

30 Kesä 41min

Announcements: Next Tour, Seeking Video Editor, Connect on Social Media, Patreon update

Announcements: Next Tour, Seeking Video Editor, Connect on Social Media, Patreon update

Some announcements for those of you who care about what's happening at AGD behind the scenes...

24 Touko 3min

61 Who is Lantern Jack? (Doug Interviews Me)

61 Who is Lantern Jack? (Doug Interviews Me)

I chat with friend and fellow podcaster Doug Metzger about how I first became fascinated with the ancient world and share some of the adventures I had on the way to getting a PhD in Classical Philosophy. ------------------ Support AGD on Patreon: patreon.com/greecepodcast ------------------ Timestamps [01:25] Why I started AGD [05:15] Why Stoicism is misunderstood today [11:20] Debunking two big myths about the ancient world [14:45] How I got interested in ancient Greece [19:58] Reggie Foster, renegade priest [25:08] What makes Ancient Greek a precise and musical language [33:57] Hitchhiking adventures [44:27] AGD tours [53:35] The genius of Aeschylus' "Oresteia"

21 Touko 1h 4min

60 The Rise of Athens (Themistocles and the Persian Wars, Part 3)

60 The Rise of Athens (Themistocles and the Persian Wars, Part 3)

During the Persian Wars, the city of Athens was completely razed to the ground by the Persian army. And yet, from its ashes, a new Athens was born, more powerful and magnificent than any other city in the Mediterranean. How did the Athenians pull that off? In this finale to our Persian Wars saga, we explore the final battles of the conflict and the clever machinations of Themistocles—one of the chief masterminds and architects of Athenian power. Contents of the episode, with timestamps: [05:35] Aftermath of Salamis [15:50] Xerxes Goes Home [23:20] The Final Battles (Plataea and Mycale) [39:08] The Themistoclean Walls [46:05] Themistocles' Exile and Death [55:50] Conclusion ------------------ Support Ancient Greece Declassified on Patreon: patreon.com/greecepodcast

9 Huhti 1h 6min

59 The Ancient Novels w/ Doug Metzger (Apuleius, Lucian, Chariton, Heliodorus, Petronius, Achilles Tatius)

59 The Ancient Novels w/ Doug Metzger (Apuleius, Lucian, Chariton, Heliodorus, Petronius, Achilles Tatius)

Unveiling the wild world of ancient Greek and Roman novels with Doug Metzger, host of the "Literature and History Podcast." ------------------ Support Ancient Greece Declassified on Patreon: patreon.com/greecepodcast ------------------ Contents of the episode, with timestamps: 04:22 When did novels first arise? 09:12 The four genres of ancient novels 11:39 The typical plot (Callirhoe) 17:55 Daphnis and Chloe 21:10 Euripides' romances 28:17 Narrative in the Bible 32:43 Evolution of the ancient novel 34:27 Leucippe and Clitophon 35:47 Heliodorus' Aethiopica 37:35 Lucian and the influence on modernity 43:08 The Second Sophistic 47:14 Greek VS Roman novels 53:44 The X-rated stuff

1 Maalis 59min

58 What Did the World's First Pop Star Sound like? | Euripides and Ancient Music w/ Claire Catenaccio

58 What Did the World's First Pop Star Sound like? | Euripides and Ancient Music w/ Claire Catenaccio

What did ancient music sound like? In this episode, you will hear three songs that are over 2000 years old! Few people in the world today know more about ancient music than our guest in this episode. Claire Catenaccio is an assistant professor of classics at Georgetown University who specializes in the study of ancient drama and its modern reception. Her recent book "Monody in Euripides" explores monody – namely solo actor's song – in the tragedies of Euripides. Her scholarship is informed by her experience as a director and historical consultant in many modern productions of ancient Greek theater plays. Contents of the episode, with timestamps: [02:07] What evidence do we have for ancient music? [13:05] What kind of musical notation did the ancient Greeks use? [13:51] The Song of Seikilos (oldest surviving song with musical score) [20:30] What the aulos (the main musical instrument on stage) sounded like [23:21] The origins of music in Greek tragedy [31:30] Cash prizes and the professionalization of acting/singing [34:45] The incredible popularity of Euripides' new music [37:20] How and Why Euripides' "Orestes" completely rewrites Aeschylus' "Eumenides" [52:30] What Euripides' songs sounded like (Electra's monody from Euripides' "Orestes") ------------------ Support Ancient Greece Declassified on Patreon: patreon.com/greecepodcast

31 Tammi 59min

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