DeepSeek: What It Means and What Happens Next
ChinaTalk30 Tammi 2025

DeepSeek: What It Means and What Happens Next

Kevin Xu of Interconnected and Interconnected Capital and I knock it out of the park with a roundup episode exploring: What DeepSeek does and doesn't illustrate about Chinese innovation Tensions between open-source cosmopolitanism and nationalism built into DeepSeek and the broader Chinese tech community DeepSeek's organizational and talent management strategy, parallels to OpenAI, and what the fame will mean for the firm and Chinese AI policy What DeepSeek should and may mean for the future of export controls and broader US innovation policy The JS Tan article referenced: https://www.chinatalk.media/p/deepseeks-secret-to-success Dario's first article on our happy AI future: https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace Dario's second article on why America needs to export control China: https://darioamodei.com/on-deepseek-and-export-controls Outtro Music: Dizkar, 愛縂時刻盛開 https://open.spotify.com/track/1rXneAS9Djts7fwRGHUeG5?si=b2b29714802948de Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sen. Chris Murphy on Corruption, China and AI

Sen. Chris Murphy on Corruption, China and AI

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Quantum 101

Quantum 101

What exactly is quantum computing? Why does it matter, and what would it actually mean to “win” the quantum race? Zach Yerushalmi, CEO of Elevate Quantum, a Mountain West–based public-private consorti...

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WarTalk: Is Mythos a Cyber Nuke? + The Blockade That Wasn't

WarTalk: Is Mythos a Cyber Nuke? + The Blockade That Wasn't

We discuss… Why Mythos is a Dr. Strangelove moment — and whether the better analogy is a nuke or a pandemic Who gets the keys: Ukraine vs. South Korea vs. Japan vs. the Five Eyes, and why the...

17 Huhti 1h 2min

The Think Tank New Breed (IFP + FAI)

The Think Tank New Breed (IFP + FAI)

Caleb Watney (Institute for Progress) and Max Bodach (Foundation for American Innovation) on what the new breed of DC think tanks does differently and why the old model is broken. We discuss: Why...

16 Huhti 1h 8min

Claude Mythos and National Power

Claude Mythos and National Power

Anthropic’s new model found decades-old vulnerabilities in foundational open-source code that millions of automated tests and countless human experts had missed, presaging a potentially revolutionary ...

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WarTalk: Who Won the Iran War?  (Second Breakfast Rebranded...)

WarTalk: Who Won the Iran War? (Second Breakfast Rebranded...)

Eric Robinson, Tony Stark , Justin Mc , and Secretary of Defense Rock join me to score the Iran conflict. We discuss… Whether Iran’s Strait of Hormuz toll booth is a Trump card or a wasting asse...

10 Huhti 1h 3min

How Ukraine Makes Drones

How Ukraine Makes Drones

Ukrainian drone manufacturing. How has the country been able to build hundreds of thousands, even millions of drones over the past four years of conflict? What dependencies does its industrial base st...

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Second Breakfast: F-15, Pete's Purges, CENTCOM Hubris, War of 1812

Second Breakfast: F-15, Pete's Purges, CENTCOM Hubris, War of 1812

An F-15E is down in southern Iran. Justin, Tony, Eric and I talk through what combat search and rescue actually looks like, how a captured pilot changes the politics of ending this war, and why a host...

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