When Is a Superstar Just Another Employee?
Freakonomics Radio5 Helmi 2025

When Is a Superstar Just Another Employee?

In 2023, the N.F.L. players’ union conducted a workplace survey that revealed clogged showers, rats in the locker room — and some insights for those of us who don’t play football. Today we’re updating that episode, with extra commentary from Omnipresent Football Guy (and former Philadelphia Eagle) Jason Kelce.

  • SOURCES:
    • Tom Garfinkel, vice chairman, C.E.O., and president of the Miami Dolphins.
    • Jim Ivler, certified contract advisor for players in the National Football League.
    • Jason Kelce, host of New Heights podcast and former center for the Philadelphia Eagles.
    • Jalen Reeves-Maybin, linebacker for the Detroit Lions and president of the National Football League Players Association.
    • Betsey Stevenson, professor of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan.
    • J.C. Tretter, former president of the National Football League Players Association and former offensive lineman.
    • Mark Wilf, owner and president of the Minnesota Vikings.


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