Tracey Thorn on being a woman in a bloke’s world, hormones and going statement grey

Tracey Thorn on being a woman in a bloke’s world, hormones and going statement grey

Like many 80s kids, I grew up with today’s guest. Tracey Thorn started early, forming The Marine Girls (once described as looking like they would “break your arm before they’d let you break their hearts”), while still at school, and Everything But The Girl, with her musical and life partner Ben Watt, whilst at university. Since then she’s released three solo albums, three critically acclaimed memoirs - and had three children. Her fourth book - My Rock’n’Roll Friend - about her 37 year on-off friendship with Lindy Morrison (drummer of Australian band The Go-Betweens) is my favourite yet. Tracey talks success, power, the “constant slog” of making women’s voices heard and why equality is a numbers game. She also tells us why menopause made her feel like she’d gone mad, the painful-but-liberating process of ageing and what to do about your statement hair going grey (asking for a friend!). You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at Bookshop.org, including the book that accompanies this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too by Sam Baker and My Rock'n'Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn. The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. I'd love to hear what you think - please rate and review, or let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Abi Morgan on rebuilding just about everything in your 50s - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Elif Shafak on the power of older women & why menopause can be the end of shame - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Martha Wainwright on music, motherhood & finding love in midlife - FROM THE ARCHIVES

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This episode of The Shift revisited was first aired in February 2023. I first met today's guest, Canadian singer-songwriter Martha Wainwright, when I interviewed her in Glasgow at the end of 2022. ...

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Prue Leith: 'I've had HRT patches on my bum for more than 40 years!'

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Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

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