Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly

President Trump's on-again, off-again tariffs have prompted Canadian store owners to take American products off the shelves, and sports fans are booing the US national anthem. Canadians are also outraged by Trump's repeated taunt to make their country the 51st state, and there are even reports the US might kick it out of the "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance. To discuss all this, Canadian Foreign Minister Mélanie Joly joins the show from Toronto. Also on today's show: former Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Zagorodnyuk; May Pundak & Rula Hardal, co-directors of the NGO "A Land for All"; Frank Sesno, professor at the GW School of Media and Public Affairs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices