16: So You Want to Save the Earth? (w/John Roulac)
Conspirituality10 Syys 2020

16: So You Want to Save the Earth? (w/John Roulac)

Yoga-crazed Hindu nationalists murder Muslims for eating beef, believing that the cow embodies the religious gift of India’s soil. American white supremacists chug gallons of local milk to prove their lactose tolerance and their claim that they alone should occupy the Global North. Extreme examples aside: it’s clear that key elements of the alt-right and the New Age agree that the Earth is sacred. Bountiful and healing, the Earth preserves everything lost to industrialization, Big Pharma, and globalization. Home is where the soil is. But whose home? Who’s welcome here? Who can afford it? Who’s allowed to own it, and who has to slave-labor on it? For all the supposed concern for ecology, why aren’t we seeing conspiritualists and QAnon devotees marching against carbon emissions, celebrating the carbon drops of lockdown, supporting the migrant workers who pick their arugula, or starting community gardens in their food-desert cities? This week Matthew reviews the soft-fascist “blood and soil” themes of conspirituality culture. Derek gives some background and context on the romanticization problem with agriculture. And Julian looks at the quasi-scientific premises and promises that podcast fave Dr. Zach Bush offers in response. We also bring you an interview with farming activist John Roulac, who’s incensed at how conspirituality is ripping up progressive foodie movements. In a recent article, he called out his old friends and associates (like Mikki Willis and Christiane Northrup) for what he calls their “body-snatching” beliefs. Matthew closes with a view from Manitoulin Island. Show Notes Is the Wellness Movement Being Tainted by QAnon and the New Age Right? John Roulac tangles with Mikki Willis John’s projects: Kiss the Ground | Nutiva | Rebotanicals Matthew’s feature on Pattabhi Jois, yoga guru and serial sexual abuser When The U.S. Government Tried To Replace Migrant Farmworkers With High Schoolers A reflection on the lasting legacy of 1970s USDA Secretary Earl Butz Why factory farms are a “perfect storm” for disease pandemics Brian Rose on Zach Bush Our COVID-19 -- -- -- Support us on Patreon Pre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | Julian Original music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bonus Sample: Simone Weil: We Have Obligations Before We Have Rights

Bonus Sample: Simone Weil: We Have Obligations Before We Have Rights

Listen to the full episode Simone Weil was skeptical about the project of “rights.” They argued that obligations come before rights, and that rights only become real when obligations are recognized and lived.  Weil believed the French Revolution made a foundational error by grounding society in rights rather than eternal obligations, creating a contradiction that still haunts liberal democracies today. Rights, Weil argues, carry a bargaining spirit and ultimately depend on force for enforcement, while obligations arise unconditionally from the mere fact of another person’s vulnerability. You owe something to others not because they’ve asserted a claim, but because they exist. Drawing from Weil’s posthumous The Need for Roots, Matthew unpacks their critique of liberal rights discourse: that modern societies undermine their own moral claims by prioritizing abstractions over duties. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Tammi 5min

Brief: Prospirituality Predictions for 2026

Brief: Prospirituality Predictions for 2026

If conspirituality names the ways religion and spirituality are weaponized to justify power, prospirituality points to religious traditions doing the opposite: grounding resistance, ethical clarity, and solidarity in moments of crisis.  So: is there a growing prospirituality response to fascism, genocide, climate collapse, and AI-driven labor precarity? Matthew argues that yeah, there’s some good news.  In Israel, scripture has been mobilized by political and religious leaders to sacralize violence in Gaza. But there’s also a surge of Jewish religious resistance among U.S. rabbis and Peter Beinart’s On Being Jewish After Gaza sets a new landmark of reckoning. Mona Haydar’s rapping and chaplaincy models a form of Muslim spirituality that is feminist, anti-genocide, and rooted in mutual aid, while resisting both Islamophobia and liberal domestication.  Then there’s Pope Leo’s escalating critiques of U.S. immigration policy and his renewed emphasis on liberation theology. Show Notes Dark Mirror: A Torah View of Revenge, and its Reflection in Israeli Media During Operation Iron Swords Peter Beinart, “I No Longer Believe in a Jewish State,” The New York Times Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza by Peter Beinart: 9780593803899 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books Even if you hate it- I still wrap my hijab — Haydar Mona Haydar: Ask a Muslim Program Fights Prejudice Conservative Muslims and Islamophobes Have One Thing in Common: Hating Mona Haydar  Pope Leo replaces New York's Cardinal Dolan in shake-up of US Church | Reuters  New archbishop ‘committed’ to immigration issues, accountability on abuse — and staying a Cubs fan  Pope’s naming of New York archbishop signals continued challenge to Trump on immigration Pope Leo's new US bishops are critics of Trump's migrant crackdown | Reuters   Pope Leo calls for Venezuela to remain an independent country | Reuters  Pope Leo says Trump administration 'extremely disrespectful' to migrants | Reuters  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Tammi 28min

292: Women of Jan 6 (w/ Noelle Cook)

292: Women of Jan 6 (w/ Noelle Cook)

Noelle Cook’s The Conspiracists: Women, Extremism, and the Lure of Belonging is the first ethnography of conspirituality, and it comes via someone who was able to really embed themselves in a volatile culture and find its emotional logic. She’s our guest today. Cook focuses on the travails of two middle-aged women following the January 6 Capitol riot. By spending years befriending and talking with Tammy Butry and Yvonne St. Cyr, Cook is able to document the impacts of childhood trauma and systemic neglect—as well as diverse personality quirks—that can drive folks toward QAnon.  They are starseeds. They are mama bears. They are on a divine mission to destroy the matrix and usher in the Great Awakening. For them, the algorithms were oracles, reinforcing isolation and radicalization by providing a sense of purpose to the purposeless, and visibility to the invisible. Cook has not written a book for answers, but a book filled with the next questions worth grappling with as we realize how deeply wounded some recruits to fascism are. Show Notes The Hottest Spot for Sunday Church Is a MAGA Dive Bar The Conspiracists: Women, Extremism, and the Lure of Belonging Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Tammi 1h 8min

Bonus Sample: Oil, Power, and Theocracy

Bonus Sample: Oil, Power, and Theocracy

In 1953 the CIA and MI6 participated in a coup d’etat in Iran. That true sentence (and what usually follows) can create an oversimplified distortion of history—and present. But Iran is in the news again with the biggest protests since the 1979 Islamic Revolution bringing millions to the streets. The regime unsurprisingly cracked down hard: at least 2,700 protesters have been killed and 18,000 arrested. Though the initial impetus was economic, these are the latest in a wave of growing uprisings in Iran against the far-right theocratic authoritarian government—especially its treatment of women. How did we get here? What happened in 1953? Isn’t this all just about oil anyway? Was the 1979 revolution really about religion? Weren’t there Communists involved? Does all the turmoil in this region trace back to Western colonial imperialism? Julian explores the tangled threads of oil, empire, and religion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Tammi 7min

MAHA’s Selective Skepticism

MAHA’s Selective Skepticism

Whole milk is back! The war on protein is over! Mainline meat! Derek investigates the new inverted pyramid and everything lacking in the new dietary guidelines. Show Notes The New Dietary Guidelines and the “Flipped Pyramid” Several of Kennedy’s Dietary Advisers Have Ties to Meat and Dairy Interests Carotenoid bioavailability is higher from salads ingested with full-fat than with fat-reduced salad dressings as measured with electrochemical detection Human health effects of conjugated linoleic acid from milk and supplements Enhancing the fatty acid profile of milk through forage-based rations, with nutrition modeling of diet outcomes Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease: A Presidential Advisory From the American Heart Association Reduction in saturated fat intake for cardiovascular disease Effect of Interventions Aimed at Reducing or Modifying Saturated Fat Intake on Cholesterol, Mortality, and Major Cardiovascular Events : A Risk Stratified Systematic Review of Randomized Trials Omega-6 fats for the primary and secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease Butter and Plant-Based Oils Intake and Mortality Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Tammi 23min

291: My Chinese Buddhist Israeli AI Guru

291: My Chinese Buddhist Israeli AI Guru

“Train your mind gently, not to deny what is hard, but to see what is still good” implores the monk sharing spiritual messages to his 2.5 million Instagram followers. Clad in an orange robe—well, sometimes a blue robe, sometimes grey or yellow—the little man of unknown descent speaks knowledge from a temple constructed from just about every Asian country imaginable. As it turns out, the creators of the AI-generated Yang Mun are…Israeli tech bros? Turns out AI isn’t just for spirituality. There’s an entire industry of health slopfluencers pushing untested supplements, as Derek covers before Matthew breaks down the AI Orientalism of Yang Mun. First, Julian touches on the 5th anniversary of the Jan 6 riots, and all the propaganda that’s emerged in its wake. Show Notes The Promise of Health Chatbots Has Already Failed Yang Mun on Instagram LinktreeMcMindfulness: how capitalism hijacked the Buddhist teaching of mindfulness Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation GigaChad | Know Your Meme Jean Baudrillard - Simulacra and Simulation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Tammi 1h 6min

Bonus Sample: Overwelled

Bonus Sample: Overwelled

From Andrew Huberman's Goop collab and Mel Robbins' protein shots to MAHA flipping the long-defunct food pyramid and making meningitis great again, the first full week of 2026 was off to quite a start. Derek covers the week that made heads spin. Show Notes Andrew Huberman is Optimizing Turkey Chili Mel Robbins is Selling Protein Shots What to Know About the New Childhood Vaccine Schedule Health officials slash the number of vaccines recommended for all kids Johns Hopkins doctor concerned over CDC's new child vaccine recommendations Flu season already rivals last winter's harsh epidemic FDA announces sweeping changes to oversight of wearables, AI-enabled devices Ōura’s Ricky Bloomfield proposes new regulatory pathway for wearable health features Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12 Tammi 4min

Brief: Censorship Industrial Complex

Brief: Censorship Industrial Complex

Marco Rubio’s office published an official press release last month titled “Announcement of Actions to Combat the Global Censorship Industrial Complex.” The memo discusses the decision to impose visa restrictions on five individuals due to their “organized efforts to coerce American platforms to censor, demonetize, and suppress American viewpoints they oppose.” One of those individuals is Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate and repeat Conspirituality podcast guest. Derek and Julian break down what's going on with this case. Show Notes Rubio Announcement CBC: Individuals Named and EU Reactions Imran Ahmed on PBS NewsNight Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 Tammi 22min

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