Joe Biden's transition talks

President-elect Joe Biden was declared the winner of the election 13 days ago. President Trump has not conceded and his administration has not taken any steps to prepare for a transition of power. In a press conference yesterday, Biden explained why he won't let that get in the way of his path to the White House. Plus, the reality of COVID long haulers. And, saving our oceans with marine sanctuaries. Guests: Axios' Margaret Talev, UC Davis pulmonologist Dr. Nicholas Kenyon and National Geographic's Pristine Seas expedition leader Paul Rose. Credits: "Axios Today" is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Carol Wu, Cara Shillenn, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Dan Bobkoff, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Alex Sugiura and Naomi Shavin. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. Go deeper: The possible long-lasting effects of COVID-19 A vast new ocean sanctuary