Clover Stroud on grief, love, sex & sisterhood - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Clover Stroud on grief, love, sex & sisterhood - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Last of my trips back into The Shift archives is this conversation with Clover Stroud. Since this conversation, Clover has written another memoir, The Giant on the Skyline about our relationship with home (borne in part out of moving her family from her home in Oxfordshire to Washington DC where her partner's job is based). Since then A LOT has changed. She has also launched an excellent substack, On The Way Life Feels. The original show notes: It takes courage to lay yourself bare on the page the way today’s guest does. Journalist Clover Stroud has written three memoirs - The Wild Other, My Wild and Sleepless Nights and, now, The Red of My Blood. Each more visceral, more exposing, than the last. But then Clover has lived no ordinary life (whatever that is). Hers features adventure, divorce, trauma, lots of sex, depression and five kids aged between 21 and 5. But before that, when Clover was 16, her mother suffered a catastrophic fall from a horse which left her permanently brain damaged. A state in which she remained until her death 22 years later. Then, two years ago her sister Nell Gifford, to whom Clover was exceptionally close, died of breast cancer, aged 46. The darkness that descended in the wake of Nell’s death informed The Red of My Blood - an emotional read about living with and learning from grief. Clover joins me from her bedroom in Oxfordshire (excellent wallpaper!) to talk - extremely candidly, so please brace yourself if you’re feeling vulnerable - about grief and trauma, bearing the unbearable and how, out of loss, she’s finding a new person to be. But It’s not all sadness. We also discussed midlife sex, sobriety, looking forward to menopause and why we’re bloody lucky to be middle-aged. * You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at The Shift bookshop on Bookshop.org, including The Giant on the Skyline and The Red of My Blood by Clover Stroud as well as the book that inspired this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too, by me. * If you enjoyed this episode and you fancy buying me a coffee, pop over to my page on buymeacoffee.com. • And if you'd like to support the work that goes into making this podcast and get a weekly newsletter plus loads more content including exclusive transcripts of the podcast, why not join The Shift community, come and have a look around at www.theshiftwithsambaker.substack.com • The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Juliette Nicholls at Pineapple Production. If you enjoyed this podcast, please rate/review/follow as it really does help other people find us. And let me know what you think on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Margaret Busby: Britain's first black female publisher on the power of passing it on

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Abi Morgan on rebuilding just about everything in your 50s - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Abi Morgan on rebuilding just about everything in your 50s - THE SHIFT REVISITED

This episode first aired in May 2022. Today’s guest is a woman I’ve admired for the longest time: stage and screenwriter Abi Morgan. Throughout her thirty year career Abi has written some of our mo...

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Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

This episode of The Shift first aired in June 2024. I first came across today’s guest, Dr Emily Nagoski, on this very podcast, when my then guest Sarah Knight (creator of the NoFucks Given franchis...

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Elif Shafak on the power of older women & why menopause can be the end of shame - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Elif Shafak on the power of older women & why menopause can be the end of shame - THE SHIFT REVISITED

This episode of The Shift first aired in August 2021. My guest today is one of the most intelligent, thoughtful people I’ve ever interviewed - and I’ve interviewed A LOT. Writer and academic, Elif ...

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Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

This episode of The Shift first aired in June 2022. I’ve lost count of the number of women I’ve spoken to who were taken totally by surprise by perimenopause but, to date, none of them actually had...

24 Maalis 50min

Martha Wainwright on music, motherhood & finding love in midlife - FROM THE ARCHIVES

Martha Wainwright on music, motherhood & finding love in midlife - FROM THE ARCHIVES

This episode of The Shift revisited was first aired in February 2023. I first met today's guest, Canadian singer-songwriter Martha Wainwright, when I interviewed her in Glasgow at the end of 2022. ...

17 Maalis 51min

Prue Leith: 'I've had HRT patches on my bum for more than 40 years!'

Prue Leith: 'I've had HRT patches on my bum for more than 40 years!'

Somehow it’s the end of our 20th season and I’m delighted to say that my guest today is a woman who has spent the last decade giving us a masterclass in ageing. One of my very own old bird role models...

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Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

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