593: Phoebe Gates: Building an AI Fashion Startup Backed by Kris Jenner & Sara Blakely

593: Phoebe Gates: Building an AI Fashion Startup Backed by Kris Jenner & Sara Blakely

Phoebe Gates went from failed prototypes in her Stanford dorm room to building one of the fastest growing fashion-tech startups in the world. In this interview, the co-founder of AI shopping app Phia shares how she and her co-founder Sophia Kianni scaled from 200 early users to half a million downloads, raised $9M from investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris Jenner, and Sara Blakely, and turned their vision into a personal AI shopping assistant trusted by a new generation of consumers. From building in public and hacking growth with feedback loops to pitching high-profile investors and navigating privilege, Phoebe breaks down the exact strategies that fueled her rapid rise as a young founder. What you’ll learn from this interview: • How Phoebe went from 50+ failed ideas to finding product-market fit in fashion-tech • The grassroots tactics she used to get her first 200 users • Why feedback loops and “pizza nights” became their biggest growth hack • How she pitched and secured investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris Jenner, and Sara Blakely • The mindset shift that helped her see failure as experimentation • Why building in public became an unfair advantage for distribution and community • How to leverage AI and automation as a young founder to scale faster By the end of this interview, you’ll walk away with a playbook for finding your idea, validating it with real users, and scaling it into a fast-growth business—so you can apply the same principles to your own entrepreneurial journey. You can download the Phia app here SAVE 50% ON OMNISEND FOR 3 MONTHS Get 50% off your first 3 months of email and SMS marketing with Omnisend with the code FOUNDR50. Just head to https://your.omnisend.com/foundr to get started. HOW WE CAN HELP YOU SCALE YOUR BUSINESS FASTER Learn directly from 7, 8 & 9-figure founders inside Foundr+ Start your $1 trial → https://www.foundr.com/startdollartrial PREFER A CUSTOM ROADMAP AND 1-ON-1 COACHING? → Starting from scratch? Apply here → https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-start-application → Already have a store? Apply here → https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-growth-application CONNECT WITH NATHAN CHAN Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/nathanchan LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanhchan/ CONNECT WITH PHOEBE GATES Website → https://phia.com/ Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/phoebegates/ LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-gates-82a60b296/ FOLLOW FOUNDR FOR MORE BUSINESS GROWTH STRATEGIES YouTube → https://bit.ly/2uyvzdt Website → https://www.foundr.com Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/foundr/ Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/foundr Twitter → https://www.twitter.com/foundr LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/foundr/ Podcast → https://www.foundr.com/podcast

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656: How Chloe Built a $50K/Month Personalised Gifting Brand From Home

656: How Chloe Built a $50K/Month Personalised Gifting Brand From Home

Chloe Widera spent 15 years as a freelance makeup artist, ran a hair and makeup agency, worked inside one of the world’s fastest-growing beauty brands, and still felt like something was missing — unti...

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655: (Solo) The Fuel Crisis Is Already Hitting Your Margins. Here Are 4 Moves to Protect Them.

655: (Solo) The Fuel Crisis Is Already Hitting Your Margins. Here Are 4 Moves to Protect Them.

Most e-commerce founders see the fuel crisis in the news and think it's someone else's problem. But if you're shipping products right now, it's already showing up in your bills — and if you're still r...

27 Huhti 13min

654: The Hoodie That SAVED Their Business ($5M in 2 Years) | Boys Lie

654: The Hoodie That SAVED Their Business ($5M in 2 Years) | Boys Lie

Tori Robinson and Leah O'Malley launched Boys Lie as a cosmetics brand with 16+ SKUs and generated $250,000 in revenue in year one—against $250,000 in debt. But they discovered customers only wanted...

23 Huhti 56min

653: (Solo) Why Community Is the Most Undervalued Asset in E-Commerce Right Now

653: (Solo) Why Community Is the Most Undervalued Asset in E-Commerce Right Now

Most e-commerce founders treat influencer marketing and community like two separate strategies — two separate budgets, two separate teams. But that split is exactly why so many brands hit a ceiling th...

20 Huhti 8min

652: IM8 Founder: What It REALLY Takes to Build a $200M Supplement Brand

652: IM8 Founder: What It REALLY Takes to Build a $200M Supplement Brand

Danny Yeung went from selling baseball cards at age 12 to scaling Ubuy-Ibuy to nearly a million a month in revenue in just six months before Groupon acquired it in 2010. Then during Covid, he launch...

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651: From 7 Years In Recruitment To $60K In 6 Months Selling Mouth Tape

651: From 7 Years In Recruitment To $60K In 6 Months Selling Mouth Tape

Michael Forshaw read a book, taped his mouth shut every night for a year, and then built a business out of it — launching Breath Sleep Tape from idea to live store in just ten weeks. A recruiter by...

15 Huhti 30min

650: The Lie About Social Media Growth (And What Actually Works in 2026)

650: The Lie About Social Media Growth (And What Actually Works in 2026)

Most founders are still treating social media as a vanity channel — a place for likes, views, and followers. And here's the tough truth: if your social media isn't converting into customers, subscribe...

13 Huhti 10min

649: We Had 3 Weeks Left… This Saved My $35M/Year Company

649: We Had 3 Weeks Left… This Saved My $35M/Year Company

Christina Stembel built Farmgirl Flowers into a $55 million bootstrapped business by 2021, betting on simplicity, direct-to-consumer, and zero VC money. Then as Covid vaccines became widely availabl...

9 Huhti 52min

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