116: New American & Heritage Ciders | Newtopia Cyder, San Diego

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Rick Moreno opened the doors of Newtopia Cyder in San Diego County California in January 2017. He comes into the trade as an entrepreneur and owner of Tornado Seattle, a bar with a craft beer and spirits focus, also serving cider and food.

Say's Rick of his new venture with Newtopia Cyder that is both a cidery with Tastig Room, we are "making our own new American style".

He takes an engaging approach to educating and meeting the San Diego beer palate by having a set standard flight of ciders called "Four Core"

Rick says, "I created a Four Core (flight of ciders) that hits every part of your palate. We use old world wine processes and blend them with new world beer ingredients"

One side of the cidery is flanked with stainless steel tanks for making modern ciders. This variety can be made in 4-6 weeks and usually have a fruit or flavored component. The wall on the other side of the cidery has oak barrels stacked and filled with what Rick calls "Old World Heritage Cider". The Tasting room has ample seating both indoors and outdoors.

The taps were purposely design to be a bit high to facilitate a long pour as one would do when pouring sidra.

Take home a can or crawler of cider of any of the Four Core Ciders.

Join the Member Club and have access to all of the ciders being poured as a take home option.

What to look forward to in the coming year from Newtopia Cyder?

• Distilling an Apple Jack Brandy in March 2019.
• Expansion into a 4000 square foot building area next door with a meat and cheese parlor too.
• There are 10 acres not on site but not too far away that is being used to grow cider apples. This location will be used as a destination site for weddings and events.

Rick calls the growing Newtopia scene "a compound". The feel though industrial is warm and engaging. Exactly what cider fans want in their cider compound.

The logistics low down on Newtopia Cyder

• Newtopia is Open 7 days a week.
  • Monday-Wednesday 3 PM - 9 PM
  • Thursday-Friday 12 PM - 10 PM
  • Saturday 11 AM - 10 PM
  • Sunday 11 AM - 9 PM
• 12-15 minute ride from San Diego Airport.
• Of note: the road that Newtopia is on also has 56 breweries on that same road! Yes there is room for cider!

Contact info for Newtopia Cyder

• eMail: mailto:hello@drinknewtopia.com
• Website: https://www.drinknewtopia.com/
• Address: 10045 Carrol Canyon Road. Suite A San Diego, CA 92131
• Telephone: 858-929-4305

Mentions in this chat

1. Rack over cider now. If you made cider in the fall and it has gone through primary fermentation any lees that has dropped to the bottom of the carboy will begin to affect the cider by creating off odors and flavors.

2. Place orders now for fruit trees, root stock, and scion wood for Spring plantings and grafting.

Sources:

Cummins Nursery I am going in on an order w/friend of Ciderville Joby and William. We are ordering a pear rootstock from Cummins Nursery. Stay posted!

Fedco - a great resource. The catalogues are beautiful.

Fedco's Tree catalogue and also their Seed catalogue is like reading a piece of art. The discount deadline for orders has passed. But you can still place orders until March 9th, except for scion wood.

John Bunker who was on both episode 16 - where we talk generally about the trees in the US and episode 28 where he provides great insight on tree identification, is definitely worth a listen

Colin Scott of E & J Scott Orchard sells saplings of Apple varieties such as Northern Spy and Redfield, plus more. He is located in western Massachusetts in the town of Buckland. Listen to his episode 93 on Orchard Care and Apple Storage. You will find his contact info on the show notes.

If you have a good resource of for fruit trees and root stock out there in Ciderville send me ria@ciderchat.com and I will share that good news.

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