Former NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg 

European leaders are meeting in England this week to push for a "just and lasting peace" in Ukraine. With President Trump’s unpredictable position on the Ukraine war, it’s up to Europe to hold the line against a deal that could undermine Kyiv and weaken Europe. Former NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg led the alliance from 2014 to 2024, grappling with Russia’s aggression and Donald Trump’s threats to pull out of NATO altogether. He’s published a new memoir, called “On My Watch,” about his successes, and his mistakes. Also on today's show: Basel Adra & Yuval Abraham, Co-directors, “No Other Land”; former US Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices