Dario Amodei, C.E.O. of Anthropic, on the Paradoxes of A.I. Safety and Netflix’s ‘Deep Fake Love’

Dario Amodei has been anxious about A.I. since before it was cool to be anxious about A.I. After a few years working at OpenAI, he decided to do something about that anxiety. The result was Claude: an A.I.-powered chatbot built by Anthropic, Mr. Amodei’s A.I. start-up.Today, Mr. Amodei joins Kevin and Casey to talk about A.I. anxiety and why it’s so difficult to build A.I. safely.Plus, we watched Netflix’s “Deep Fake Love.”Today’s Guest:Dario Amodei is the chief executive of Anthropic, a safety-focused A.I. start-upAdditional Reading:Kevin spent several weeks at Anthropic’s San Francisco headquarters. Read about his experience here.Claude is Anthropic’s safety-focused chatbot.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.