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If you are found to be guilty of murder and sane, you could spend 25 years in prison. But if you are found not guilty by reason of insanity, you could be confined to an institution for 587 years. Involuntary confinement in a state psychiatric hospital sometimes becomes a life sentence. Guests: Mac McClelland, a reporter who has written about Houston Herczog, her third cousin who was found not guilty of murdering his father by reason of insanity; Savannah Herczog, Mr. Herczog’s sister, who was at home the night their father was killed; Houston Herczog, who is confined at Napa State Hospital in California. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.