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Cathy Heller (@cathyheller) is a DIY musician, licensing guru, and creator and host of popular podcast Don't Keep Your Day Job, on a mission to offer real tools and insight to help others find a sense of purpose and newfound fulfillment in their work. What We Discuss with Cathy Heller: How to coax creativity from yourself by engaging in activities that provoke emotion. What makes the difference between indulging in a creative hobby and creating work that others are willing to pay for. Branding yourself as a creative in a way that's effective and profitable. How creatives can market in a way that doesn't contradict their brand. How to pitch to non-creatives in a way that isn't a time sink. And much more... Sign up for Six-Minute Networking -- our free networking and relationship development mini course -- at jordanharbinger.com/course! Like this show? Please leave us a review here -- even one sentence helps! Consider including your Twitter handle so we can thank you personally! Full show notes and resources can be found here.