Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

Rian Johnson’s new Knives Out film, 'Wake Up Dead Man,' is sparking conversations few mainstream movies ever touch — faith, forgiveness, power and what it actually means to follow Jesus in a polarized world.

In this episode, we talk with the filmmaker about growing up in the Church, walking away from faith and why Christ’s teachings — especially “love your enemy” — still shape the stories he wants to tell. Johnson opens up about wrestling with the us-versus-them mentality, the corrupting pull of power and influence, and why he wanted to portray Christian belief with empathy rather than caricature.

Plus, the RELEVANT crew debates the best Christmas movie of all time in a chaotic bracket showdown, reacts to surprising year-end culture stories and discusses new research suggesting adolescence doesn’t actually end until age 32.

HIGHLIGHTS:

01:40 – Why 'Wake Up Dead Man' Feels Like a Gospel Story

04:00 – Serving vs. Fighting: Faith and the Culture War

06:45 – Why Culture Is More Open to Spiritual Conversations

09:20 – Is Wake Up Dead Man the Best Knives Out Movie?

12:10 – Is Rian Johnson Done With Faith?

13:10 – Christianity vs. Church Culture

20:15 – RELEVANT Buzz

22:00 – Forrest Frank Breaks Into Google’s “Hum to Search” List

26:30 – Theo Von and Morgan Wallen’s Bible Study Revealed

32:00 – Rian Johnson on Growing Up Evangelical

34:00 – “Arms Wide Open vs. Fists Up” Faith Explained

39:00 — SLICES

39:20 – New Research Says Adolescence Lasts Until Age 32

45:15 – AI Reality TV Is Here (Unfortunately)

47:30 – Christmas Movie Bracket Challenge



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Episode 1294: Pat Barrett, Vince Gilligan and the March Madness Mascot Bracket

Episode 1294: Pat Barrett, Vince Gilligan and the March Madness Mascot Bracket

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Episode 1293: Ryan Gosling on 'Project Hail Mary,' a Christian Oscar Nod & the NFL Star Turning Missionary

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Episode 1292: Colony House, Papa Roach Gets Saved, Iranian Christians, and Kyle Idleman on the Real Jesus

Colony House is back with a new album, and they sat down with Emily to reflect on 10 years of making music and what they want the next decade to look like. In RELEVANT Buzz: Papa Roach lead singer Jac...

10 Mar 58min

Episode 1291: Zachary Levi on His New David Docu-Drama, and Is Revival Actually Happening in America?

Episode 1291: Zachary Levi on His New David Docu-Drama, and Is Revival Actually Happening in America?

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3 Mar 54min

Episode 1290: Elevation Worship's Chris Brown, Plus the Faith Revival in Pro Sports

Episode 1290: Elevation Worship's Chris Brown, Plus the Faith Revival in Pro Sports

This week, Elevation Worship's Chris Brown tells us why the band took an extra year off from releasing music — and what their new album ‘So Be It’ sounds like on the other side of that pause. We also ...

24 Feb 56min

Episode 1289: The Lone Bellow, Plus the Pastor of the SEU Outpouring

Episode 1289: The Lone Bellow, Plus the Pastor of the SEU Outpouring

This week, Zach Williams from indie-folk band The Lone Bellow joins the show to talk about their new album — including the wild story of how their van was broken into, all their recordings were stolen...

17 Feb 55min

Episode 1288: Milo Ventimiglia Tells Us Why He's Starring in a Christian Movie, our Super Bowl Recap & Is Gen Z Getting Dumber?

Episode 1288: Milo Ventimiglia Tells Us Why He's Starring in a Christian Movie, our Super Bowl Recap & Is Gen Z Getting Dumber?

This week, actor Milo Ventimiglia — known for 'This Is Us,' 'Gilmore Girls' and 'Heroes' — tells us why he chose to star in a new Christian movie, playing real-life worship artist Tim Timmons, who was...

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