Ep. 25: Chris Garrett - (N1) Civilian Demining in Ukraine

In episode # 25, we delve into the experiences of Chris Garrett, a UK volunteer deeply involved in humanitarian mine action since 2014. Chris's journey began in Myanmar, where he clandestinely joined a group to clear landmines due to the absence of a legal framework. His interest led him to Ukraine in the early stages of its conflict in 2014. Despite language barriers and resource limitations in Ukraine's institutions, Chris joined a volunteer battalion and later the National Guard's foreign reconnaissance team, contributing to mine clearance efforts. Over time, his role shifted to teaching basic mine awareness and clearance due to the increasing use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and mines. The conflict in Ukraine saw both sides employing mines and booby traps, resulting in casualties and the proliferation of instructional videos on social media. Ukraine is believed to be one of the most heavily mined countries globally, posing a significant challenge. Chris highlighted the danger of booby traps and the need for updated Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) to counter evolving tactics on both sides. He emphasized a shift towards remote clearance due to booby trap risks and the difficulties of dealing with mechanically laid minefields. Chris urged fellow clearance workers to reevaluate their SOPs and consider the high risk of booby traps, even in mechanically laid minefields. His caution stems from concerns about shrapnel and hidden fragmentation hazards during detonations. Chris holds civilian IED and mine action qualifications from Kosovo, which he adapts for Ukraine's unique conditions. He strikes a balance between standardized safety protocols and practical on-the-ground safety measures. Despite the limitations he faces, including the lack of helicopter, artillery, and vehicle support, Chris continues his vital work. He collaborates with various Ukrainian units, such as police, military, National Guard, and intelligence, adapting his approach based on their specific needs. Chris's connections, experience, and reputation grant him trust and access to military units for training and assistance. He emphasizes that applying Western or NATO standards doesn't always align with Ukraine's conflict realities and limited resources. Chris's training efforts are urgent, as dedicated personnel for mine clearance are often lacking. He acknowledges the ever-changing dynamics and the volatile nature of Ukraine's conflict. Chris's experiences shed light on the challenges and complexities of mine clearance and humanitarian efforts in conflict zones. His insights into tactics, technology, and threats in the Ukrainian conflict underscore the importance of support, awareness, and adaptation to evolving situations. https://www.prevailtogether.org/ https://www.instagram.com/bring_me_the_swampy/ Please SUBSCRIBE to the channel / @echooscardelta4194 Support the Echo Oscar Delta podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/echooscardelta/support Buy an Echo Oscar Delta Hat: https://www.etsy.com/EchoOscarDelta/listing/1513387925/echo-oscar-delta-trucker-hat?utm_source=Copy&utm_medium=ListingManager&utm_campaign=Share&utm_term=so.lmsm&share_time=1688342638080 #eod #specialoperations #crossfit #podcast #navy ----------------------- EPISODE SPONSOR: NSOF - Navy Special Operations Foundation "We exist to ensure our operators and their families are provided with all the tools necessary to overcome any challenges they may face and let them know they are never alone in the fight"