Talking Dateline: The Thing About Helen & Olga

Talking Dateline: The Thing About Helen & Olga

Lester Holt talks with Keith Morrison about his original podcast series “The Thing About Helen & Olga.” A team of seasoned detectives uncover horrifying murder plots in Los Angeles orchestrated by a pair of unlikely suspects: two elderly ladies named Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. Keith tells Lester who he believes was the mastermind of their devious schemes and plays extra sound from the manager of a mom-and-pop lighting store who had his own run-in with the “girls.” They’re joined by Dateline Senior Producer Susan Leibowitz, who shares a story about why she returned to the church where Helen and Olga volunteered “helping” the homeless long after reporting on the story.

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The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 1: Nothing to Lose. Everything to Gain

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 1: Nothing to Lose. Everything to Gain

Helen and Olga are on a mission to help homeless men in Los Angeles, when tragedy strikes. Twice. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. ...

9 Feb 31min

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 2: "The Girls"

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 2: "The Girls"

An insurance investigator’s hunch leads law enforcement to assign a task force to tail two little old ladies. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWi...

9 Feb 32min

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 3: Silk Pajamas and a Flimsy Nightgown

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 3: Silk Pajamas and a Flimsy Nightgown

The Granny Task Force conducts simultaneous early-morning raids at the homes of Helen and Olga. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. Se...

9 Feb 37min

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 4: Girl Talk

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 4: Girl Talk

Detectives leave Helen and Olga alone together in a room wired for sound. Old resentments boil over. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz compan...

9 Feb 34min

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 5: Just a Little Red Paint

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 5: Just a Little Red Paint

The investigation goes into high gear with the discovery of the murder weapon. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com...

9 Feb 28min

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 6: The Bottom Line

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 6: The Bottom Line

Fireworks and finger pointing in court as two little old ladies do whatever it takes to beat a murder rap. This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021, and updated on February 9, 2026. ...

9 Feb 38min

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Verdict in double murder trial. Olympian accused of being drug kingpin. Plus, catfishing.

In Virginia, Brendan Banfield testifies at his double murder trial, and the jury returns a verdict. Former Olympian Ryan Wedding, who prosecutors say swapped his snowboard for the drug underworld, is ...

5 Feb 35min

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