News Meeting: Why big events ultimately come down to chance

In this bonus episode the Tortoise team are joined by Dr Brian Klaas, Associate Professor in Global Politics at University College London and author of ‘Fluke: Chance, Chaos, and Why Everything We Do Matters’.

They discuss a joke at Donald Trump’s expense, the mood swings of politicians and why a thin layer of cloud saved one Japanese city from an atomic bomb.

The producer was Rebecca Moore.

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