What ELSE Did Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt Do To Their Children That We DIDN'T Hear About?

What ELSE Did Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt Do To Their Children That We DIDN'T Hear About?

Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt finally sentenced – but was it enough?

After shocking the world with their horrific child abuse, Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt have been handed prison sentences of up to 60 years each. But is this justice for their crimes? On this episode of Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski brings in retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer to dissect the sentencing and the lingering questions the case raises.

“I was happy to see the 60-year exposure...both of these were sentenced to the same sentence. Do you think that was fair?” Brueski probes.

Coffindaffer raises a crucial point: as the children's mother, did Ruby deserve even harsher punishment than her co-conspirator, Jody? The discussion explores the chilling dynamic between abuser and abused, questioning both women's roles in the horrific crimes.

The hosts analyze the apologies made in court. Was Ruby truly remorseful when she said, "I am committed to unlearning my toxic behavior"? Can such monstrous behavior ever truly be unlearned, or are they both capable of repeating these horrors?

"She’s capable of this and much more... I think he should be held responsible to a degree as well," Coffindaffer remarks regarding Kevin, Ruby's husband. Might he also be culpable?

The episode delves into chilling details from the Eight Passengers videos and police interactions, highlighting the pattern of abuse that likely escalated behind closed doors.

Were Ruby and Jody stopped only because they got caught? Would they still be abusing these children if not for the intervention?

Join this haunting discussion on Hidden Killers and grapple with the uncomfortable questions this disturbing case raises.

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Shari and Chad Franke: Recovery After Ruby's Conviction | Where They Are Now

Shari and Chad Franke: Recovery After Ruby's Conviction | Where They Are Now

Ruby Franke was arrested in August 2023. Sentenced to four to thirty years in February 2024. The performance that defined her children's lives was over.Part 5 of "The Good Mother" examines where the F...

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Ruby Franke: CPS Was Called for Years — Why Didn't They Stop the Abuse?

Ruby Franke: CPS Was Called for Years — Why Didn't They Stop the Abuse?

CPS visited the Franke home in 2020 after viewers reported concerns about 8 Passengers. They investigated. They closed the case.Three years later, Russell and Eve Franke were found bound and starving ...

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8 Passengers: Family Vlogging Exploitation and Shari Franke's Testimony | Child Influencer

8 Passengers: Family Vlogging Exploitation and Shari Franke's Testimony | Child Influencer

8 Passengers had a billion views. The Franke children were filmed from birth. Five videos a week for eight years. Milestones, punishments, humiliations — all content.Part 3 of "The Good Mother" examin...

12 Mar 13min

Jodi Hildebrandt: How She Took Over Ruby Franke's Family | ConneXions Coercive Control

Jodi Hildebrandt: How She Took Over Ruby Franke's Family | ConneXions Coercive Control

Jodi Hildebrandt's own niece reported abuse in 2009. Tied up. Duct taped. Forced to sleep outside in snow. Nothing happened.Fourteen years later, Russell and Eve Franke were found bound and starving i...

11 Mar 17min

Ruby Franke: Narcissistic Mother Psychology Explained | The Good Mother Part 1

Ruby Franke: Narcissistic Mother Psychology Explained | The Good Mother Part 1

Ruby Franke had 2.5 million subscribers watching her raise six children on "8 Passengers." She filmed five days a week for eight years. Brand deals. Sponsorships. A parenting empire built on the image...

10 Mar 13min

Kevin Franke and Kendall Seymour: Two LDS Dads, Two Doomsday Wives, Same Excuse

Kevin Franke and Kendall Seymour: Two LDS Dads, Two Doomsday Wives, Same Excuse

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31 Jan 22min

Kevin Franke: Manipulated Victim or Willing Bystander? The Psychology Behind ‘Devil in the Family’ | 2025 True Crime

Kevin Franke: Manipulated Victim or Willing Bystander? The Psychology Behind ‘Devil in the Family’ | 2025 True Crime

Was Kevin Franke a victim of psychological manipulation — or a bystander who found it easier not to look too closely? In this gripping Hidden Killers deep dive, Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavau...

4 Jan 29min

The Therapist Behind Ruby Franke: Inside Netflix's "Evil Influencer" Documentary-WEEK IN REVIEW

The Therapist Behind Ruby Franke: Inside Netflix's "Evil Influencer" Documentary-WEEK IN REVIEW

Netflix's new documentary "Evil Influencer: The Jodi Hildebrandt Story" drops December 30th, and it finally shifts the focus to where it belongs — not on Ruby Franke, but on the woman Ruby herself bla...

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