117: William Henry Harrison Sagers - More Historical Malpractice

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LINKS for this episode:

Joseph Smith brings charges against Harrison Sagers:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/charges-against-harrison-sagers-preferred-to-william-marks-21-november-1843/1

Sarah Miller realizes Joseph never condoned Chauncey Higbee's polygamy:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/testimony-against-chauncey-l-higbee-25-may-1844/3

Wilford Woodruff - Joseph condemns adultery, polygamy, etc. "in toto":

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/remarks-25-november-1843-as-reported-by-wilford-woodruff/1

Draft version of Woodruff account above with revisions:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-march-31-december-1843/155#X97D4A60E-8864-4C8A-BD10-6370A770B4AB

Final version of Woodruff account above:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-e-1-1-july-1843-30-april-1844/152

Chargers against Sagers by his wife Lucinda:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/charges-against-harrison-sagers-preferred-to-the-first-presidency-and-quorum-of-the-twelve-apostles-circa-10-april-1844/1#source-note

Gary Bergera's unsupported assertions (see p. 88):

https://www.jstor.org/stable/43200169?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Brian Hales lists Sagers as someone taught polygamy by Joseph Smith:

https://josephsmithspolygamy.org/history/polygamy-causes-martyrdom/

Chapters:

0:00 Introduction

3:45 Sagers charged w/ using Joseph's name to justify adultery

7:00 Sagers tried to seduce his wife's younger sister

12:15 Sarah Miller affidavit - Chauncey used Joseph's name

25:35 Some thoughts on church courts

32:10 Grover and Johnson - polygamous high priests

36:20 Aaron Johnson's many wives

38:30 Thomas Grover's fraudulent affidavit

48:20 Joseph condemns adultery and any such thing

1:06:40 Lucinda Sagers charges her husband with polygamy

1:20:55 Harrison Sagers's many wives

1:29:00 Did Joseph authorize Sagers's polygamy?

1:37:00 Unsupported assertions from historians

1:48:35 Another historian's unsupported claims

1:54:15 The sandy foundation of "settled" history