Punching Above Your Weight With JASON WHALLEY From FRENZAL RHOMB

The 1990s were a turbulent time for music. The advent of gentrification began in earnest as strains and side strains of sidestrains of different sounds came together to supposedly enhance our listening pleasure. Newer styles- or genres if you will - of music materialised almost before our ears, and all of a sudden phrases like grunge and alternative rock/metal were being bandied about as though the very passing of those words through your lips gave you a greater natural aura than all else around you.But it was also a time where work for musicians was plentiful, be it trying your hand at creating what was to become the next musical revolution or branching out into other fields within the music industry. It was a time where it was okay to mess up, because in those early years of a new era of music, mistakes were welcomed. Encouraged in some instances.It was also a time when an aspiring musician was making a name for himself as a producer, latching on to the fascination with all things grunge and throwing his DNA behind the musical revolution from inside the studio. The place where the magic happens. His name? Butch Vig. Back then Vig was relatively unknown, but before long would become known as one of the pioneers of this sonic movement, producing bands such as Nirvana, the Smashing Pumpkins, L7, and Sonic Youth. Butch could have set himself up as a producer for as long as he liked, but the discontent grew inside him, leaving him bored and disillusioned despite his obvious talents.Rather than allow the lingering darkness to fully take over, Butch instead turned his attentions to creating and playing the music, in the process uniting with three other like-minded musicians and forming a rock outfit called Garbage, who still have the same original four members some thirty years later. Butch realised that in life, you must forge your own path. Pain is fleeting, the darkness penetrable. The easiest way for it to consume you is to sit by while it slowly takes control. Or you can go out and get that thing you want. Make it happen. Just like Butch Vig did some thirty years ago.With Garbage set to touch down in a matter of weeks for the first time in a decade as part of Good Things 2025, HEAVY jumped at the chance to get a little nostalgic when we sat down for a chat with drummer Butch Vig."We are so psyched to be coming there," he said warmly. "We have a huge fan base there. I'm going down there to play some shows, but also I'm going early, and I'm gonna stay late in Australia, so I actually can be a tourist for a few days. I'm bringing my wife along, who has never been there before. So I'm really psyched to come back."We point out that it has been a while between drinks."Like I say, I am coming down early," Butch laughed, almost apologising. "We're going down to New Zealand early, then we're gonna stay extra time in Australia because I haven't been there in a while. Garbage hasn't been there for a while, and I wanna be able to take in the country and spend some time there. In the US run, we play a show, and then we get on the bus and we drive overnight and play a show again, then get on the bus and drive overnight. We have tonight off in Salt Lake City, but rarely do we have days off, so I really wanna get down there and be a proper tourist for a few days.In the full interview, Butch tells us what has changed with Garbage since their last tour a decade ago. He introduces us to their new bass player and highlights some different elements she has brought to the band's music. We talk more about the tour and what to expect, reflecting on the eclectic mixture of bands at Good Things, and run over the pros and cons of genre-specific festivals opposed to ones with a wide range of different music.We spoke about the vibe backstage at music festivals and if the musicians mix with bands outside of their genre, plus Butch suggested three songs for Good Things attendees to listen to from Garbage if they are not familiar with the band's music. Butch took us through the early days of the band, including his disillusionment with music at the time, and how forming Garbage helped reignite his musical spark. We asked him about the success of Garbage's self-titled debut album and if the band had any inkling they were onto something special after finishing it, the importance of continuity within the band and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

31 Okt 16min

After establishing themselves as serious contenders in the ever-growing Australian music landscape with their 2024 EP Requiem, Melbourne hard rock outfit The Last Martyr seemingly went into their shells, still playing the odd show but failing to release more new music to deliver the knockout blow.It was ultimately a combination of many different factors of life and music that stood as a buffer between maintaining momentum and walking the tightrope of everyday life, but if the absolute carnage that is their upcoming single Brain Rot is anything to go by, The Last Martyr have decided it's time to reacquaint themselves with their fans. And not by easing back into things, either.Harking back to their nu metal roots, The Last Martyr have proved that while they might not have been as prolific in the public forum, that doesn't mean they have remained idle in the creative realm. Brain Rot is a seething, attitude-laced descent into a world diminished by the rapid emergence of the digital age and the many fears, problems, and disconnections that come with it.Throw in the fact that vocalist Monica Strut was recently crowned as a deserved winner of the Women In Heavy Music Award at this year's Australian Women's Music Awards, and you have a potent mix of tempered aggression and personal embodiment that is just waiting to be unleashed. HEAVY spent time earlier this week with Monica to talk about the new single and her recent recognition by her peers."I think it's just one of those milestones that is so rare, especially in the music industry," she relayed when asked if winning the award has sunk in yet, "and as a woman, and in Australia. There's obviously the ARIA's, but you really have to be so on top of your game to win an ARIA. We don't have many awards like this in Australia, and there's something really special about even just being invited to the ceremony."We question Monica on the gap between releases and ask if she thinks The Last Martyr may have lost momentum in that time."We thought we weren't going to do it justice if we rushed it," she said of Brain Rot. "We had the song ready, but in terms of being a musician, it's not just about writing music. You've got to prepare all the contents, and you've got to have the marketing for it and create the single artwork. So I think we've delayed it a little bit, mainly due to logistical reasons."We bring up the return to a more nu metalcore sound and ask if that is going to remain the way forward for The Last Martyr."We're always going to experiment," Monica shrugged. "We're never going to be a band that sticks with a certain sound and then just copy/ paste. We have too many ideas, and we always want to be pushing ourselves as artists. But what I will say is I feel like this song and the next batch of songs, they're the best songwriting that we've ever done in terms of arrangements and everything like that."In the full interview, we explored the shift back to The Last Martyr's roots in more detail, discussing the reasons behind the return and how Monica thinks fans will react. We talked more about her recent Award and what it means to her as a person and an artist, also mentioning the previous two winners and how tight-knit the Australian metal circle is.We spoke more about not rushing into releasing anything straight after Requiem, whether Brain Rot is a standalone single or part of a bigger album picture, upcoming shows and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

30 Okt 19min

Electro metal group Solence frontman Markus Videsäter caught up with HEAVY's Ali Williams to chat about their upcoming release, Angels Calling, and the inevitable album tour. Originally from LA, these guys are now settled in Sweden in the hope of optimising their expansion. Solence formed back in 2012 and had initially released tracks in increments in a build-up to their first album, Brothers, back in 2019.The success they saw from this catapulted them into the algorithm, which meant Spotify was kind to them, and we all know what happens when you scratch Spotify in the right place.Making a significant amount of their music during the COVID epidemic had unprecedented results, none of which could be predicted. As Markus stated, Solence could see the numbers they had, but that didn’t transpire into the realisation that those numbers were real people actually digesting their music. So when they were invited to perform alongside Five Finger Death Punch, the band individually and collectively had their minds blown at the surreal nature of their growth.Fast-forward to 2025, and Solence are locked in and serious about gaining more traction. Their latest release, Angels Calling, comes out on October 31 and will be available on all platforms. That date corresponds with the band's upcoming European tour that kicks off on November 7 and finishes up on December 6.Markus informs us that after their tour, Solence have some exciting new plans for 2026, and although he stopped short of revealing what those plans were, he has strongly recommended fans stay tuned and keep a close eye on things.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

30 Okt 24min

Certain things in this world should always be spoken in the same breath. Be it respect, acceptance or merely just because that's the way it has always been, some things you just don't mess with. Like a pie and tomato sauce, a Tim Tam straw, bacon and eggs, and The Meanies and Australian music.It seems The Meanies can't ever put a foot wrong, even when it comes to apathetically releasing a song recorded 25 years ago that just happens to have worked its way to the surface, although, admittedly they did hedge their bets somewhat by inviting another classic Aussie band from that era in Frenzal Rhomb to provide a cover of Play This Song Every Night on the B Side.From the late 1980s and into this century, Melbourne pop punk-meets-hardcore-meets-punk-meets-attitude outfit The Meanies have crawled and fought their way into the halls of Australian music royalty, generally not caring either way about the trappings of success and the money and problems that invariably come with it. Put simply, The Meanies are the band that keeps on giving, and if you have no idea about why or how these guys have etched themselves into the realm of champions, then I suggest you repeat Grade 5. Or maybe listen to this chat HEAVY recently had with frontman Link Meanie. We ask him how a song could just be found after 25 years in captivity, to which he had a strangely semi-serious answer."We initially released an EP and a couple of more EPs from that recording session," he explained. "The more traditional Meanies-type songs. But I was just a bit confused at the time and recorded a whole bunch of ridiculous shit. There was a disco song, there's a fucking country song. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking, but yeah. So we did release those, and we had a whole bunch of other stuff that we've gradually done a bunch of singles with. So we'll have one of those tracks on the A side and a couple of Aussie bands covering our songs on the other side. So we've been lucky enough to have some really good bands do that."In the full interview, Link told us the story behind the suddenly found music and why it has been drip-fed over the years. We discussed the song itself, Shutdown, and the funkier direction it takes, asking if that was a direction The Meanies had contemplated taking 25 years ago. He told us of the fun he had writing and recording that sexier number, and the potential for The Meanies to rebrand themselves as sex symbols.We chatted about having Frenzal Rhomb and Leeches! feature on the B Side, each band covering a different song by The Meanies. We also spoke about the friendship and connection between them and Frenzal, and some fun times they have had together over the years. The topic of grunge music and its global invasion was raised, and how The Meanies started up around the same time, but never conformed to what was a rapidly expanding genre. He told us about the band's single launch tour starting on October 31 and what fans can expect, and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

29 Okt 17min

At a time when much of the music industry was still finding its feet after the rapid emergence of alternative rock, Sydney up-and-comers The Clouds took a different approach. Rather than grow with the music trend that was sweeping the country, they decided to get ahead of the curve by expanding on what was, in the 1990s, a sound still very much in development.Coming together towards the end of 1989, The Clouds quickly stamped their own class on the Australian music scene, playing by no rules except their own and daring to colour way outside of the lines to create a sonic tapestry of eclectic beauty that saw the band rapidly surpass the growing movement to create one of their own.By blending dreamy pop, angular rock, and hazy shoegaze elements with warm melodies and poetic, insightful lyrics, The Clouds - armed with two part female harmonies which were almost unheard before in a band situation at the time - have stood the test of time and character, reaching their 35th anniversary as a band with little or no signs of conforming to industry expectations despite the obvious benefits of doing so.To celebrate this milestone, The Clouds embark on a select run of three capital city shows through November in what is sure to be a poignant trip down memory lane for anyone who has even only slightly followed the band and their music over the last three and a bit decades. HEAVY sat down recently with guitarist/vocalist Jodi Phillis to find out more, pointing out that 35 years as a band is as good an excuse as any to hit the stage."It's a bit surreal and a bit crazy," she smiled, looking back on the last 35 years, "but yes, it's always good to have an excuse. Something to hang the tour on, as they say."We bring up the obvious fact that The Clouds have to play certain songs that fans almost demand - like Hieronymus, Red Serenade, Say It and Soul Eater - but also raise the point that being a special anniversary run, the band has the right to be self-indulgent to a degree."We're doing a combination," Jodi laughed. "So we're going to do those ones that we know that the audience enjoys, and we still enjoy playing them otherwise we wouldn't do them. But yeah, we're definitely going to put back in some of the ones that we've dropped for a while that were also our favourites. Plus, we're putting in a couple that are really obscure, so it will be fun."In the full interview, Jodi talks more about the shows and the reasons behind doing three select performances instead of a traditional pub run, keeping match fit and being in a position to perform to your best as the hands of Father Time inevitably catch up and who else other than herself and Patricia Young will be part of the tour.We chat about the early days of The Clouds and the emergence of alternative music, with Jodi deliberating on their place in the alternative movement and how the band sonically negotiated that period. She brings up relearning songs that were written nearly forty years ago and how they have stood the test of time, the balance between playing their existing catalogue and writing new music and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

28 Okt 12min

Melbourne rock/metal outfit To Octavia have shown their hand early in their career, resisting the temptation to follow in the path of easier acceptance in preference for staying true to their art.With the breakout success of their EP Somewhere In A World, Not Of The Dream, it would have been tempting and sensible to rehash the same winning formula for their debut album Melodrama. Their sound had obviously struck a chord with the music-loving public, and more of the same would have likely instantly propelled them into the next level of aspiring artists. But more of the same wasn't on the minds of To Octavia, who instead followed a darker, heavier path more in keeping line with their own musical progression, leaving behind the safety net they had worked so hard for and once again throwing their choices and music at the mercy of the public.It was a decision that has already shown dividends with four singles already making a splash, and with Melodrama coming out this Friday, October 31, it seems like the band's bold decision to defy expectations is not going to backfire on them.HEAVY caught up with guitarist Nav Jay, vocalist Merry Kirk-Holmes and drummer Lucas Keurntjes to chat more and start by asking how they are feeling on the cusp of the album's release."Very excited," enthused Merry. "This album has been in the works for a very long time, so it's really exciting to finally get it out."We ask the boys to dive deeper into Melodrama musically."We were all on the same page when we were writing it and taking it to whatever it was going to be," Merry replied. "We didn't know it was going to be an album at the time. But I guess there's more of a darker tone than the previous EP, Wonderland, which is a bit more upbeat, a bit more poppy and rocky. We decided naturally that we'd go back to our more metal influences, like our roots, really. And that led to experimenting more and more with different kinds of sounds and things."In the full interview, To Octavia tell us more about the musical side of Melodrama and how it is heavier than previous offerings. They detail their thoughts on taking the music in a darker direction and discuss the need to further expand their sound rather than play it safe.They discussed how their music has grown and will continue to grow, how Nav is fitting in to the band, the risk of alienating existing fans with the new direction and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

28 Okt 14min

Norse folk music has always been a more than handy bedfellow with metal music. Despite the obvious sonic contrasts between the two, they seem to combine well with each other, providing an unsettling ambience that could potentially veer into darker territory at any given moment.While Kalandra - spearheaded by four Norwegian and Swedish musicians - make use of these Nordic elements, they also create a sonic tapestry laced with progressive rock and pop sensibilities that is both intimate and consuming. Led by Katrine Stenbekk’s sublime vocals, the band have spent over a decade refining their sound and building a world which has led to them sharing stages with acts like Wardruna, Leprous and Eivor while earning acclaim at festivals such as France's Hellfest and Norway’s Midgardsblot.And now, it's Australia's turn as Kalandra prepare for their first ever trip to our shores, bringing their haunting, beautiful and immersive live experience to a new world filled with new opportunities for the band. HEAVY sat down with vocalist Katrine Stenbekk, guitarists Jogeir Daae Mæland and Florian Bernhard Döderlein Winter plus drummer Oskar Johnsen Rydh to find out more, starting with the final piece of the touring puzzle just falling into place."I just actually got my final email from the Australian government saying that I'm allowed to bring this little funny instrument in," Jogeir laughed, holding up a goat horn. "It's something about the nature instruments and the endangered species in Australia."We ask the band about touring countries for the first time and if they do their homework, pointing out that the Australian sense of humour is a bit different to the rest of the world, offering the example that our way of showing friendship and respect is to pay out on each other."This is very good to know," Florian smiled. "This is like in Toulouse in France. We were very confused because when they boo, the whole crowd goes boo. Apparently, that means that they love it, which is very confusing for us. So yeah, learning these sorts of things like that is very useful to us."In the full interview, we discuss in greater detail what we can expect from Kalandra's live show, why it has taken so long to get over here and what, if any, research they plan to do. We asked them to elaborate on the atmospherics with their music and how they translate to the live arena, as well as the blending of instruments in their music and how that translates live.We spoke about Kalandra's upcoming EP Morketid and what it represents, as well as the musical growth in the band over their journey. I asked about getting the balance right in the creative process and how they know if they have gone too far or not far enough in any musical direction, future plans and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

28 Okt 23min

What better way to kick off a new year than a trifecta of brutality? Which is exactly what Australia is getting next February when death metal miscreants Aborted join forces with Archspire and Organectomy for a tour so crushing they have had to name it the Return To Prison Island Australia Tour 2026.For the last three decades, Aborted have pioneered death metal, taking no prisoners in their blending and cross-pollination of extreme metal, death-grind and ferocious extremities neatly wrapped in a ball of technical precision that defies their relentless approach. Their most recent album, Vault Of Horrors, solidified Aborted's supremacy, and now they are headed our way to spread sonic carnage across the land. While these three bands will complete a four-date capital city run themselves, Aborted and Archspire have also been invited to perform at both Froth & Fury Festival shows, rounding out the tour with bookends in Perth and Adelaide.HEAVY sat down with Aborted's Daniel Konráðsson to find out what to expect. We start by asking if Aborted has hit the road with either Archspire or Organectomy before."We've toured with both of those bands before, absolutely," he smiled at the memory. "We did a summer tour with Archspire, which was a great time. We toured the U.S. together, North America, and had a lot of fun. Those guys definitely are very upper alley, both musically and personally. We've known those guys a long time; the two bands go way back. And sonically, I feel like they align as well, so that makes for a very good package. It's kind of broad, but it's also going to be pretty pummelling most of the way through, which is not bad (laughs). Organectomy were with us throughout Europe, and those guys were awesome. Absolutely awesome. So we're very excited to see them all again, definitely."Over the full interview, the discussion focused on the upcoming Australian tour and live performances by Aborted. Dan shared insights on the importance of crowd participation in creating an engaging atmosphere during shows, emphasising that they aim to foster an active environment where the audience's enjoyment is key to a successful performance.He expressed excitement for Froth & Fury Festival, highlighting the unique experience of a metal-only festival and the opportunity to discover new bands. Dan recommended three key songs for new listeners and reflected on his smooth transition into the band, noting his pride in enhancing their sound while maintaining high production quality in their latest album and more.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heavy-music-interviews--2687660/support.

27 Okt 16min