189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

189. Sander Van Gelderen, CMO, Effectory - Why MQLs Aren’t Enough and How ABX Is Closing the Gap

In this episode, we’re joined by Sander van Gelderen, CMO at Effectory, an employee listening solution platform helping organizations measure and improve engagement, enablement, and productivity at scale, serving 700+ recurring customers across the Benelux, DACH, and now the Nordics.

We spoke with Sander about how Effectory transformed from a project-based consultancy into a recurring revenue SaaS business and how his team is reshaping their go-to-market motion through Account-Based Experience (ABX). The goal? Closing the gap between marketing and sales, reducing waste, and targeting only the accounts truly in-market.

Here are some of the key questions we address:

  • What is ABX and how does it differ from ABM in practice?

  • How do you unify marketing and sales targeting to remove friction?

  • What were the warning signs that the traditional MQL model wasn’t working?

  • How do you implement ABX without losing velocity or your team’s trust?

  • What process and tech changes are required to make ABX work?

  • How should marketing compensation evolve in an ABX world?

  • What are the real trade-offs and pitfalls no one talks about?

🎧 Tune in to hear how Sander and his team are aligning people, process, and technology, proving that better targeting isn’t just possible, it’s essential for sustainable growth.

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210. Jens Levin, Founder & CEO of Sitoo - No Overnight Success: 22 Years of Focus, Teamwork, and Playing the Long Game

210. Jens Levin, Founder & CEO of Sitoo - No Overnight Success: 22 Years of Focus, Teamwork, and Playing the Long Game

In this episode, we’re joined by Jens Levin, Founder & CEO of Sitoo, the retail SaaS platform powering in-store experiences for leading brands across the world. Today, Sitoo has 20M Euro in ARR, 40%+ ...

1 Apr 50min

209. Elena Verna, Growth at Lovable - How to Grow When Everyone Can Copy Your Product

209. Elena Verna, Growth at Lovable - How to Grow When Everyone Can Copy Your Product

In this episode, we’re joined by Elena Verna, growth expert and currently leading growth at Lovable, one of the fastest-growing companies in tech. Elena shares why the old growth playbooks are breakin...

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208. Lisen Zethraeus, CMO at Stratsys - How to Make Your Experts the Face of Your Brand

208. Lisen Zethraeus, CMO at Stratsys - How to Make Your Experts the Face of Your Brand

In this episode, we’re joined by Lisen Zethraeus, CMO at Stratsys, to talk about how B2B SaaS companies can turn internal expertise into thought leadership that builds trust and creates demand. Strats...

19 Mar 50min

207. Adam Dorrell, CEO & Co-Founder of CustomerGaige - Founder-Led Sales vs Scaling: The Hard Transition Nobody Talks About

207. Adam Dorrell, CEO & Co-Founder of CustomerGaige - Founder-Led Sales vs Scaling: The Hard Transition Nobody Talks About

In this episode, we’re joined by Adam Dorrell, CEO & Co-Founder of CustomerGaige, for a candid conversation about one of the hardest founder transitions: when, and how, to step out of the sales seat w...

5 Mar 52min

206. Rahul Yadav, CEO of Paligo - The CEO Blueprint for High-Impact Executive Offsites

206. Rahul Yadav, CEO of Paligo - The CEO Blueprint for High-Impact Executive Offsites

In this episode, we sit down with Rahul Yadav, CEO of Paligo, for a practical conversation on leadership alignment - and how to run executive offsites that drive real clarity, trust, and follow-throug...

26 Feb 50min

205. Roeland Delrue, Co-Founder of Aikido Security - Why joining the buyer’s journey beats forcing MEDDICC-style sales processes

205. Roeland Delrue, Co-Founder of Aikido Security - Why joining the buyer’s journey beats forcing MEDDICC-style sales processes

In this episode, we’re joined by Roeland Delrue, Co-founder of Aikido Security, the fast-growing application security platform that just became a unicorn in under 4 years.  Roeland shares what it real...

28 Jan 55min

204. Madhav Bhandari - VP Marketing, Storylane - How to Win in a World of 150,000 SaaS Tools: Pattern Interruption is your real mote

204. Madhav Bhandari - VP Marketing, Storylane - How to Win in a World of 150,000 SaaS Tools: Pattern Interruption is your real mote

In this episode, we’re joined by Madhav Bhandari, VP Marketing at Storylane, the demo automation platform helping B2B teams show their product before prospects ever talk to sales. Storylane is a profi...

23 Jan 56min

203. Kate Sygrove, Director of CS & Support, Mouseflow - Speak CFO: How CS Leaders Earn an Equal Seat at the Table

203. Kate Sygrove, Director of CS & Support, Mouseflow - Speak CFO: How CS Leaders Earn an Equal Seat at the Table

In this episode, we’re joined by Kate Sygrove, Director of Customer Success at Mouseflow, the SaaS platform for website behavioral analytics. Mouseflow is a $10M+ ARR business with 3,500 customers, 51...

9 Jan 49min

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