Anthony Hernandez & Caio Borralho talk middleweight pecking order

Matt Serra and Jim Norton welcome top middleweight contenders Anthony Hernandez and Caio Borralho to discuss the 185-pound title picture after Khamzat Chimaev’s win.

Hernandez recaps his submission victory over Roman Dolidze, previews his recently announced UFC Vancouver bout vs. Reinier de Ridder, and shares a laugh with Matt about their mutual appreciation for certain… ‘plant-based’ recovery methods.

As someone also there in Chicago for Chimaev’s win, Borralho assesses his place in the title queue and what it might take from him in September’s UFC Paris headliner against Nassourdine Imavov to seal his place as Khamzat’s rightful challenger.

Plus, Matt shares his excitement to wake up early for UFC Shanghai’s sneakily action-packed card — including a high-stakes grappler’s delight set between Brian Ortega and Serra-Longo’s own Aljamain Sterling.

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