Matt Smith: Rethinking College with “The Preparation”

Matt Smith: Rethinking College with “The Preparation”

A Note from James

There’s always been debate about whether college is worth it. But what if there’s a better alternative—one that actually prepares you to become the person you want to be? My good friend Matt Smith just wrote a book with Doug Casey called The Preparation. It’s not theory—he’s been putting his own son through it as a real-world experiment. Instead of college, Maxim has spent the past two years learning skills like EMT training, firefighting, building houses, working cattle, and even launching a business. This is a practical roadmap for turning those years of 18–22 into a hero’s journey. I loved this conversation, and I’m sending the book to all of my kids.


Episode Description

James talks with entrepreneur and writer Matt Smith about his new book The Preparation, co-authored with Doug Casey. The book lays out a four-year alternative to college built around “cycles”—three-month intensive experiences designed to build practical skills, personal codes, and real-world wisdom. From earning an EMT license to fighting wildfires, training in Muay Thai, or running a small business, these cycles are designed to help young people become independent, capable, and resilient. James and Matt discuss why the traditional college path often fails, how to build a personal code of values, and why the future belongs to “expert generalists” who know how to learn across disciplines.


What You’ll Learn

  • Why “be, do, have” is a more powerful framework for life than chasing possessions or credentials.
  • How creating a personal code builds self-respect and identity.
  • Why intergenerational relationships matter more than peer validation.
  • How cycles of hands-on learning—from EMT work to entrepreneurship—prepare young people better than a classroom ever could.
  • Why becoming an expert generalist is the best hedge against a future dominated by AI and automation.


Timestamped Chapters

  • [00:00] A Note from James: College vs. alternatives
  • [01:00] Introducing Matt Smith and The Preparation
  • [03:00] Origins of the book and Doug Casey’s vision
  • [05:00] Writing the book for his son Maxim
  • [06:00] Why homeschooling replaced high school
  • [07:00] “Be, Do, Have” explained
  • [09:00] Stacking cycles vs. stacking skills
  • [10:00] Why the book focuses on young men (and how women can adapt it)
  • [11:00] How to build your own cycle
  • [13:00] Why traditional education fails to prepare people for real skills
  • [14:00] Establishing a personal code
  • [16:00] Examples of personal rules for self-respect
  • [18:00] Practicing courage and choosing virtues
  • [20:00] Skills Maxim has gained so far—EMT, chess, horses, firefighting
  • [22:00] Adventures with Doug Casey and small-country nation building
  • [24:00] Maxim’s cycles: EMT work, ranch apprenticeship, wildfire EMT
  • [27:00] Structure, resistance, and learning by doing
  • [28:00] Shelter Institute and learning to build a house
  • [29:00] Entrepreneurship cycle: precision agriculture with drones
  • [31:00] Lessons from entrepreneurship
  • [32:00] Muay Thai training in Thailand
  • [33:00] Cooking school in Florence
  • [34:00] Travel with purpose vs. aimless wandering
  • [36:00] James on biographies and meaningful decisions
  • [37:00] Preparing for AI and the future of work
  • [39:00] Why being an “expert generalist” matters
  • [41:00] Learning how to learn across environments
  • [42:00] The problem with peer-only education
  • [44:00] Intergenerational relationships as mentorship
  • [45:00] What comes after the preparation
  • [47:00] Why the program can work for adults too
  • [49:00] Rethinking retirement as another cycle of preparation
  • [56:00] Matt’s personal growth through writing and learning new skills
  • [58:00] Designing The Preparation as a beautiful, interactive book
  • [59:00] Closing thoughts and sending the book to the next generation


Additional Resources

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Episoder(1405)

She Was Brainwashed. Then She Left Iran. Now She Has an $18M Portfolio | Kiana Danial, The Invest Diva

She Was Brainwashed. Then She Left Iran. Now She Has an $18M Portfolio | Kiana Danial, The Invest Diva

A Note from James:What is going on in Iran? And once this war is over, what happens to investing? Is the world coming down? I’m bringing on the Invest Diva, Kiana Danial, to talk about both. She wrote...

2 Apr 43min

Thinking Sideways: Chess, AI, and Smarter Decisions with Jen Shahade

Thinking Sideways: Chess, AI, and Smarter Decisions with Jen Shahade

A Note from JamesOne of my favorite people in the world is back on the podcast: Jen Shahade. She’s been on the show before. She’s a great chess player, a great poker player, a two-time U.S. Women’s Ch...

31 Mar 1h 4min

From Wakanda to Jamaica: Dr. Sheena Howard on Black Panther, Abduction at 19, Abuse, and Owning Your Creative Destiny

From Wakanda to Jamaica: Dr. Sheena Howard on Black Panther, Abduction at 19, Abuse, and Owning Your Creative Destiny

A Note from James:This is why I love doing podcasts—talking to people like Dr. Sheena Howard, author of Why Wakanda Matters. Wakanda is the country where Black Panther is from, and Sheena has written ...

24 Mar 1h 30min

The Skills School Never Taught You - Train Your Brain with Jim Kwik

The Skills School Never Taught You - Train Your Brain with Jim Kwik

Episode DescriptionThis archival conversation with Jim Kwik moves beyond memory tricks and into something more fundamental: how we think, learn, and make decisions.Jim breaks down why most people forg...

20 Mar 2h 2min

How to Improve Memory & Delay Alzheimer's with Nelson Dellis

How to Improve Memory & Delay Alzheimer's with Nelson Dellis

A Note from James:I talked to Nelson Dellis, who’s a six-time USA Memory Champion and has broken multiple Guinness World Records. His book, Everyday Genius, makes a pretty bold claim—that with some pr...

17 Mar 1h 17min

From the Archive: Lori Gottlieb — What Your Therapist Is Really Thinking

From the Archive: Lori Gottlieb — What Your Therapist Is Really Thinking

A Note from James:I’ve been in therapy for more than three decades.Different therapists. Different kinds of therapy. Different crises.And one question has always fascinated me: What is the therapist a...

14 Mar 58min

Fab 5 Freddy: How Hip-Hop Was Born

Fab 5 Freddy: How Hip-Hop Was Born

A Note from James:In the Blondie song “Rapture,” which was the number-one song in 1981, Debbie Harry has this famous line: “Fab Five Freddy told me everybody’s fly.”So the question is—who is Fab Five ...

10 Mar 1h 16min

From the Archive: Tony Hawk: Mastery, Failure, and the Trick That Changed Skateboarding

From the Archive: Tony Hawk: Mastery, Failure, and the Trick That Changed Skateboarding

A Note from James:Tony Hawk is one of the greatest athletes of all time—but what fascinates me most isn’t just the tricks.It’s the mindset.Tony didn’t just become the best skateboarder in the world. H...

7 Mar 50min

Populært innen Business og økonomi

lydartikler-fra-aftenposten
stopp-verden
dine-penger-pengeradet
rss-penger-polser-og-politikk
e24-podden
rss-borsmorgen-okonominyhetene
pengepodden-2
finansredaksjonen
livet-pa-veien-med-jan-erik-larssen
pengesnakk
utbytte
okonomiamatorene
tid-er-penger-en-podcast-med-peter-warren
morgenkaffen-med-finansavisen
liberal-halvtime
stormkast-med-valebrokk-stordalen
lederpodden
rss-politisk-preik
rss-markedspuls-2
lederskap-nhhs-podkast-om-ledelse