Ukraine needs to become an 'indigestible porcupine'
The Story26 Aug 2025

Ukraine needs to become an 'indigestible porcupine'

With the prospect of peace in Ukraine looking increasingly clouded following Donald Trump's attempts at inter-continental deal-making, the former head of the UK military, General Sir Nick Carter, tells Tom Newton Dunn that the US president doesn't understand his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin. Can Europe's leaders achieve some kind of security guarantee without US boots on the ground to back it up? And does Trump understand the lessons of history?


Guest: General Sir Nick Carter, Former UK Chief of the Defence Staff.

Host: Calum Macdonald and Tom Newton Dunn.

Producer: Sophie McNulty.

Clips: Fox News.

Photo: Getty Images.

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