75,000 Person Agency is Doomed
In this episode, Eric and Neil discuss why the penalty for "average" has never been more severe and how leveraging AI can dramatically increase efficiency and margins. They share firsthand hiring insights from agency giants, reveal lead and MQL trends, and explain why only 1% of companies truly benefit from AI. Plus, they debate the real impact of AI on agency growth, value-based pricing, and what it takes to close bigger B2B contracts. Tune in for hard data, actionable takeaways, and advice for adapting your skills in the changing landscape. TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Why “average” is getting penalized in the AI era (08:40) Lead and MQL trends: what the downturn means (18:15) Agency giants on adapting (or failing) with AI (28:50) Does AI actually drive more revenue for agencies? (41:30) Rethinking value-based pricing in B2B contracts 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOSTS Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel FREE RESOURCES Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/

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How OpenClaw Creates 100k view X Articles

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This episode of Marketing School with Neil and Eric breaks down how OpenAI-powered tools are driving 100,000+ X views, booking meetings, and reshaping enterprise marketing strategy. Neil and Eric deba...

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The Luxury Era of The Creator Economy Has Arrived

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In this episode, Neil and Eric break down where SEO products are headed as AI automation accelerates, from on-page fixes and content creation to promotion, links, and social distribution. They explain...

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The AI Prompt That Writes $100k Sales And Email Copy For You

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10 Feb 21min

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