Quadrillions: Privacy or Perish | Eli Ben-Sasson, Shaul Kfir, & Eric Saraniecki
Empire3 Dec 2025

Quadrillions: Privacy or Perish | Eli Ben-Sasson, Shaul Kfir, & Eric Saraniecki

In this episode, we discuss why privacy is critical for TradFi adoption, crypto’s privacy solutions today, and how privacy unlocks institutional adoption of crypto, ultimately bringing quadrillions onchain. -- Quadrillions brings together the voices defining the next era of finance. From institutional rails to stablecoins and privacy, the series dives into how traditional markets, crypto innovation, and regulatory frameworks are converging to bring the full force of capital markets onchain. Join hosts Jason Yanowitz, Yuval Rooz, and Eric Saraniecki for deep dives with special guests Shaul Kfir, Don Wilson, Mike Belshe, Justin Peterson, Acting Chair Caroline Pham, Eli Ben-Sasson, and more. Produced by Blockworks and Canton Network. For more information, check out https://quadrillionspod.com/ -- Follow Canton: https://x.com/CantonNetwork Follow Eli: https://x.com/EliBenSasson Follow: Eric: https://x.com/wesarn_real Follow Shaul: https://x.com/ShaulKfir Follow Jason: https://x.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (3:26) Defining Privacy In Crypto (7:11) Why Doesn't Privacy Exist Onchain Yet? (11:18) The Demand For Privacy (14:12) Is Privacy a Feature or a Product? (19:50) Can Privacy Be Bolted On? (23:06) zkRollups Are Not Zero Knowledge (31:12) Balancing Privacy With Regulatory Compliance (34:04) Starkware's Userbase (38:21) Privacy at the Application Layer (41:08) Privacy vs Anonymity (43:56) Crypto's Next Big Moment -- Disclaimer: “Quadrillions” is a mini-series produced by Blockworks, and is sponsored by Canton Network. Nothing on this show is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. It’s for informational purposes only, and the views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions, not financial advice or necessarily the views of Blockworks. Our hosts, guests, and the Blockworks team may hold positions in companies, funds, or projects discussed, including those related to Canton Network.

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