Tracey Thorn has got it all going on at 60 - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Tracey Thorn has got it all going on at 60 - THE SHIFT REVISITED

While we take our summer hiatus we're revisiting some classic episodes of The Shift with Sam Baker. Since I recorded this interview with Tracey back at the start of 2021, she and her partner Ben Watt have released a new Everything But The Girl album, Fuse, that's rocketed them back into the charts. Like many 80s kids, I grew up with today’s guest. Tracey Thorn started early, forming The Marine Girls (once described as looking like they would “break your arm before they’d let you break their hearts”), while still at school, and Everything But The Girl, with her musical and life partner Ben Watt, whilst at university. Since then she’s released three solo albums, three critically acclaimed memoirs - and had three children. Her fourth book - My Rock’n’Roll Friend - about her 37 year on-off friendship with Lindy Morrison (drummer of Australian band The Go-Betweens) is my favourite yet. Tracey talks success, power, the “constant slog” of making women’s voices heard and why equality is a numbers game. She also tells us why menopause made her feel like she’d gone mad, the painful-but-liberating process of ageing and what to do about your statement hair going grey (asking for a friend!). You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at Bookshop.org, including the book that accompanies this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too by Sam Baker and My Rock'n'Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn. The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. I'd love to hear what you think - please rate and review, or let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Emily Nagoski knows the surprising secret to long term intimacy - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Elif Shafak on the power of older women & why menopause can be the end of shame - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Elif Shafak on the power of older women & why menopause can be the end of shame - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Christie Watson on menopause, mischief and midlife - THE SHIFT REVISITED

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24 Mars 50min

Martha Wainwright on music, motherhood & finding love in midlife - FROM THE ARCHIVES

Martha Wainwright on music, motherhood & finding love in midlife - FROM THE ARCHIVES

This episode of The Shift revisited was first aired in February 2023. I first met today's guest, Canadian singer-songwriter Martha Wainwright, when I interviewed her in Glasgow at the end of 2022. ...

17 Mars 51min

Prue Leith: 'I've had HRT patches on my bum for more than 40 years!'

Prue Leith: 'I've had HRT patches on my bum for more than 40 years!'

Somehow it’s the end of our 20th season and I’m delighted to say that my guest today is a woman who has spent the last decade giving us a masterclass in ageing. One of my very own old bird role models...

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Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

Poorna Bell is rewriting the rules around ageing

This week I’m delighted to welcome back the powerhouse Poorna Bell. Poorna is a journalist, author and speaker known for her advocacy on body image and diversity. And now she’s adding ageing to the li...

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Elizabeth Gilbert: "It's quite radical, what happens to us as we get older"

Elizabeth Gilbert: "It's quite radical, what happens to us as we get older"

My guest today doesn’t really need an introduction. Elizabeth Gilbert is many things - an internationally bestselling author of the global phenomenon, Eat Pray Love, a Time 100 most influential person...

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Fatima Bhutto: surviving a coercive relationship & letting go of shame

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