Christmas: It’s complicated

For cult leavers raised in groups like Jehovah's Witnesses who don't celebrate Christmas, the holidays can create mixed feelings. Celine and Stephen explore this and talk about their own experience of learning to embrace cultural celebrations and holidays. Also, is it hypocritical for atheists to celebrate Christmas? The second segment is more personal and Celine and Stephen talk about why they do the podcast even though it has come at a cost neither expected.

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Nonna's Natale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzLLH13O61U&t=21s

Animation, My First Christmas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6_beKvu5uI