036 Remembering Michael Scott Scudder

036 Remembering Michael Scott Scudder

For episode 36 we are remembering the dynamic health and fitness career of our friend and industry leader, Michael Scott Scudder.

"As some of you may know, a very well-known fitness industry consultant passed away unexpectedly early in July. He was a dear friend of mine, and a dear friend of many people. He was a colleague that we respected for his trends, views, and research that he shared openly with the industry. For this podcast, we're sharing with you an interview that Michael and I did 6 years ago on what's happening to the fitness industry and what our thoughts were at the time. We're doing this in his honor because many people are mourning his loss, and we thought it would be a good thing to think back on all of the great things that he's done and reflect upon his views and mine of six years ago. Please keep Michael and his family in your prayers, he will be dearly missed." - Bryan O'Rourke

About Michael Scott Scudder

Michael spent over four decades in the fitness business as Salesperson, Trainer, Manager, Executive Director, Owner, Consultant/Advisor, Conference Speaker, Webcaster, Independent Fitness Facility Researcher. His energy and expertise supported building systems to help clubs become more successful and use internet technology to bring these web based strategies to the industry.

Michael began his MSS network as "Fitness Focus" in 1991. This morphed into Fitness Business Council in 2002 which eventually became MSS Network in 2012. His Network Donating Memberships presently represent more than 1,600 North American independent health and fitness businesses.

Some of Michael's Accolades:

  • One of only 19 persons in "Who's Who in International Fitness."
  • Named by "Club Industry" magazine as "an industry leader you ought to pay attention to."
  • Consulted to/advised/mentored:
    • 600+ health clubs of all sizes
    • 50+ studios
    • 60+ not-for-profits
    • 100+ top industry leaders
    • 8 states and 12 foreign countries
About Bryan O'Rourke

Bryan O'Rourke is a CEO, board member, advisor, keynote speaker, author and investor, who has successfully expanded global brands for over 30 years. He guides and works with many fitness and health club brands and serves on the IHRSA board of directors. He launched Vedere Ventures, a boutique private equity firm in 2016 and is President of the Fitness Industry Technology Councilwhich supports the Fitness + Technology Podcast . Check it out today. Get his recent book the 9 Partnership Principles written with his partner Robert Dyer and other top fitness industry leaders. Bryan also released with Europe Active the book Customer Engagement and Experience In The Fitness Sector. To learn more visit bryankorourke.com or follow him @bryankorourke .

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The Fitness Industry Technology Council in concert with the late Michael Scott Scudder conducted a survey on fitness facility technology Adoption with nearly 1,600 facilities represented in the late Spring of 2017.

The report will be released via the fittechcouncil.org monthly newsletter.

Here are two findings: Only 30% of respondents think they have enough information to make educated decisions about technologies while 42% are not really concerned about falling behind to more technologically savvy competitors.

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Quotes From Michael & Bryan

"Michael would stand on tables and scream at the various industry events where he was presenting at times because he cared so much. A few people thought he was crazy but he was also well connected and quite knowledgable. He could put things in context and always asked great questions. Our calls and talks sometimes were the stuff of William F. Buckley Jr.'s Firing Line; intellectual, rhetorical and quite stimulating if you like that sort of thing; I certainly did. He was also funny and we laughed often together. - Bryan O'Rourke, written in his LinkedIn post honoring Michael.

"There's something that many the veterans of this industry have known for a long time that works, and that is the 20/80 rule. Twenty percent of you customer-base is going to provide you with eighty percent or more of your ancillary revenue." - Michael Scott Scudder

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AI Front Desk: Transforming Frontline Work With Brian Holmes

AI Front Desk: Transforming Frontline Work With Brian Holmes

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, Bryan O'Rourke welcomes Brian Holmes, CEO and Founder of AI Front Desk. With hiring, training, and retaining frontline workers becoming increasingly challenging, AI Front Desk offers innovative artificial intelligence solutions that handle complex business tasks directly. By reducing dependence on traditional staffing models, the company helps streamline operations, improve efficiency, and minimize errors. Brian joins Bryan to discuss his company's approach and the practical impact these solutions are having across the industry. One Powerful Quote: 32:05: "Yes you can get to where you want to go. You just won't get there as fast as you want." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 2:47: Bryan opens the show by sharing Brian's entrepreneurial background. 8:42: Bryan asks Brian about the key lessons that led to the founding of AI Front Desk. 13:47: Bryan discusses the timeline behind launching AI Front Desk. 17:09: Brian addresses common misconceptions about agentic AI. 20:22: Brian outlines some of the core functions that AI Front Desk can perform. 25:33: Brian highlights the biggest challenges organizations face in adopting the technology. 31:20: Brian imparts his final pearls of wisdom to the listeners.  Bullet List of Resources: https://aifrontdesk.com/ Guest Contact Information: brian@aifrontdesk.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-holmes-0a448566/ https://x.com/BrianAIFrontDsk https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

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Key Trends That Will Shape The Global Fitness Industry — Live from FitLife's Club Network Conference With Bryan O'Rourke

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, Bryan O'Rourke shares his keynote presentation delivered live at FitLife's Club Network Conference in Seattle. Bryan explores the key trends transforming the global fitness industry from rapid technological advancements to the evolving importance of human capital. He emphasizes why now is a pivotal moment for leaders to shape the future of fitness. To view Bryan's slide deck, go to: https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/future-of-fitness-2025-fitlife-club-network-keynote-seattle-2025-bryan-orourke/283944575 One Powerful Quote: 16:54: "Clarity is a superpower." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:34: Bryan gives an introduction to the major trends shaping the fitness industry and their impact on its future direction. 17:38: Bryan shares the opportunities and challenges that will define the next five years in fitness and wellness. 18:48: Bryan discusses the capital and financial shifts in the marketplace. 27:02: Bryan speaks on bridging the digital and physical gap through humanized experiences. 37:06: Bryan talks about business models that are driving innovation in health and fitness services. 44:12: Bryan highlights what's real in understanding the technology and AI hype cycle. 56:46: Bryan explains why people and trust are the most valuable assets today. 1:06:50: Bryan summarizes how translating strategy into execution can lead to meaningful change. Bullet List of Resources: https://fitlifeclubs.com/ Guest Contact Information: https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

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Exploring Integrative Coaching & Wellness Services With Chris Edwards

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes back Chris Edwards, Founder and CEO of TriCore Wellness. TriCore focuses on the integration of technology, health data, and professional coaching to deliver comprehensive wellness solutions for individuals, employees, and organizations. Chris joins Bryan to discuss his business model and share valuable insights on current trends in integrative coaching and wellness services. One Powerful Quote: 7:51: "You have to unlearn before you can relearn." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:23: Chris and Bryan discuss how TriCore supports fitness operators by identifying business challenges and creating solutions that drive opportunities. 10:07: Bryan and Chris talk about exploring the unique challenges and emerging opportunities in wellness service products. 12:57: Bryan and Chris talk about addressing the disconnect between traditional fitness education and the evolving needs and expectations of modern consumers. 15:53: Bryan asks Chris why there hasn't been a fresh perspective on identifying and addressing service gaps in the fitness industry. 20:11: Chris shares closing thoughts and actionable advice for listeners navigating the future of wellness services. Bullet List of Resources: https://tricorewellness.com/ Guest Contact Information: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-edwards-367094196/ https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

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Strategic Leadership & Growth at Life Time With Jeff Zwiefel

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4 Aug 29min

Driving Innovation In 3D Design Software With Richard Grönberg

Driving Innovation In 3D Design Software With Richard Grönberg

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes Richard Grönberg, Founder and CEO of ECDESIGN — a leading 3D interior design software that empowers sales professionals to quickly plan and visualize any space without the complexity of traditional CAD tools. With over 10,000 companies across 170 countries using the platform, ECDESIGN is transforming how fitness and commercial environments are imagined and brought to life. Tune in as Richard shares insights into the power of design, his business philosophy, and how intuitive planning tools are shaping the future of space visualization in the fitness industry. One Powerful Quote: 18:31: "There are no shortcuts." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 2:51: Bryan asks Richard about the origins of ECDESIGN and what inspired him to launch the business. 5:25: The conversation shifts to Swedish design and how it influenced Richard's journey into the fitness industry. 7:15: Richard explains how design expectations have evolved and what users now look for when using ECDESIGN. 8:26: Bryan and Richard explore how gaming principles have influenced modern design tools and the role of technology in that transformation. 13:21: Richard shares his approach to leadership, organizational management, and his core business philosophy. 16:20: Richard offers closing thoughts and shares key insights for listeners from his entrepreneurial experience. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.ecdesign.se/ Guest Contact Information: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-gronberg/ https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

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Accelerating Growth In Boutique Fitness With Julian Barnes

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OfferingTree: Building Trust and Tech For Wellness Pros With Eddie Arpin

OfferingTree: Building Trust and Tech For Wellness Pros With Eddie Arpin

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke is joined by Eddie Arpin, Co-Founder of OfferingTree, a comprehensive website, scheduling, and payment solution designed specifically for wellness professionals. OfferingTree empowers coaches, yoga instructors, personal trainers, mindfulness teachers, and other wellness practitioners by streamlining digital operations, so they can focus on delivering exceptional client experiences. In this conversation, Eddie shares the journey behind OfferingTree, his insights into the evolving needs of wellness professionals, and practical advice on building trust, improving client engagement, and leveraging digital tools effectively. One Powerful Quote: 16:06: "Trust is the most valuable commodity in the world now." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 2:47: Eddie shares his software background and the origins of OfferingTree. 5:24: Bryan and Eddie talk about common pain points for wellness professionals. 9:37: Bryan asks Eddie about the value and impact of SMS marketing. 12:26: Eddie goes into evolving trends in content strategy and SEO. 14:57: Eddie shares his thoughts on payment processing and earning customer trust. 17:14: Bryan and Eddie discuss why tech stack integration matters more than ever. 25:54: Bryan wraps up the interview with Eddie imparting his final pearls of wisdom. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.offeringtree.com/ https://www.edelman.com/trust/2025/trust-barometer Guest Contact Information: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddiearpin/ https://x.com/fifth_eddie https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

21 Juni 30min

The Future of Fitness LIVE From Beyond Activ With Bryan O'Rourke

The Future of Fitness LIVE From Beyond Activ With Bryan O'Rourke

In this episode of the Fitness + Technology Podcast, Bryan O'Rourke shares his keynote, "The Key Trends Creating Opportunities and Challenges for the Global Fitness Industry in the Next 5 Years" live from Beyond Activ in Singapore. Bryan shares the spotlight for what's next for fitness across the globe — from emerging technologies and programming innovations to finance, business models, and the forces reshaping how to serve members and scale impact. Whether you lead a gym, studio, supplier brand, or digital platform, this talk is designed to challenge your thinking and equip you for what's ahead. To view the slideshow, go to: https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/future-of-fitness-2025-keynote-bryan-orourke-beyond-activ-singapore-2025/280332550 One Powerful Quote: 7:41: "In a world deluged by irrelevant information, clarity is power." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:09: Bryan opens his keynote with "What if?" and the convergence of macro/micro trends. 7:47: Bryan talks about opportunities and challenges in the next 5 years. 11:31: Bryan articulates on business models as the mainstay configurations for fitness delivery. 15:40: Bryan speaks on biotechnologies and the new social constructs today. 17:40: Bryan defines leadership vision and the processes to execute on it. 19:09: Bryan recaps his presentation. Bullet List of Resources: https://beyondactiv.com/ Guest Contact Information: https://www.bryankorourke.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryankorourke/ http://www.fittechcouncil.org/ https://www.youtube.com/user/bko61163

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